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House of Lords Reform (No. 2) Bill — Second Reading (28 Mar 2014)

Lord Grenfell: I am most grateful to the noble Lord but I should correct him on one point. This is a report from a group of Labour Peers to their fellow Peers; it does not mean that it is Labour Party policy. It is the views expressed by a group of Labour Peers of what we think might be, and would like to see as, Labour policy. The other point is that we are certainly not recommending an appointed House. We...

House of Lords Reform (No. 2) Bill — Second Reading (28 Mar 2014)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, I am sorry to miss out on that viscountcy, but a barony gets you quite far in Paris, anyway—at least these days it is not to the guillotine. When I was studying modern languages at King’s, Cambridge, some 58 years ago, I struggled through the plays of a 19th-century Viennese dramatist and poet called Franz Grillparzer. That is not an exercise that I would recommend to any...

Ukraine — Statement (4 Mar 2014)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, I sometimes think that we are living in a bit of a dream world here. If anybody listened to President Putin’s press conference late this morning, as I did, they would have been left in absolutely no doubt whatever that he is unimpressed by all the threats that are being made against him. He may not in his heart of hearts believe that, but that is what he is saying. He is not...

European Union (Referendum) Bill — Committee (2nd Day) (31 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, I strongly support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Shipley. I declare what may be a tangential interest: I am entitled to vote in local elections in France. I feel very strongly that people who are entitled to vote in local elections here as EU citizens should not be denied that right. My fear is that if we were to deny them this right, we would be reinforcing the image of a...

European Union (Referendum) Bill — Committee (2nd Day) (31 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, I put my name to this amendment because I believe its purpose to be profoundly important. I do not have much to add to the very persuasive argument of the mover of the amendment, the noble Lord, Lord Turnbull. I merely wish to endorse a lot of what he said and hope that noble Lords will strongly support the amendment. I am afraid that the amendment, while I support it, is open to...

European Union (Referendum) Bill — Committee (1st Day) (24 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: I add one point to that. It would be wholly inconsistent for us on these Benches to propose another date when the whole point of what we are trying to get across is that we want to give a future Government flexibility.

European Union (Referendum) Bill — Committee (1st Day) (24 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, I promise I will be brief and I will try not to repeat what others have said. If I made the speech that I really wanted to make, when noble Lords read it in Hansard tomorrow they would probably all accuse me of plagiarising the noble Lord, Lord Kerr, because I agree with every word that he said—it could not be said better. I would just like to make two points. Of course, I am...

European Union (Referendum) Bill — Committee (1st Day) (24 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, I support these amendments very strongly indeed. I find it curious that, so far, not one word has been spoken from the Benches opposite in defence of their wording. That is rather curious, until you look at why the Bill is before us. Let me remind noble Lords of what the commission concluded. It said that the question, “should be amended to make it more direct and to the point,...

European Union (Referendum) Bill — Committee (1st Day) (24 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: I am sorry to disagree with the noble Lord but I was quoting directly from Hansard. That is exactly what he said: “Let us say that this Bill is imperfect and has got here by a most peculiar route”.—[ Official Report, 10/1/14; col. 1808.] It could not be clearer. In whatever context you wish to put that, it is pretty plain language. It is the sort of language one is used to hearing from...

European Union (Referendum) Bill — Committee (1st Day) (24 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords—

European Union (Referendum) Bill — Committee (1st Day) (24 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, if the noble Lord is claiming that if we passed amendments there would never be a referendum for the British people on the EU, are we changing the whole concept of parliamentary democracy? Are we saying that no Government could ever introduce a Bill for a referendum? No. It is untrue. We are saying that this Bill is a wretched Bill. It is not the proper basis on which to have a...

Stephen Ward — Question (16 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, the noble Lord would say that, wouldn’t he?

European Union (Referendum) Bill — Second Reading (10 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: Is the noble Baroness asking us to believe that there is not one single flaw in the Bill? Is the Conservative Party claiming a kind of papal infallibility that cannot be changed?

European Union (Referendum) Bill — Second Reading (10 Jan 2014)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, it is always a pleasure to listen in this House to the autobiographical discourses of the noble Lord, Lord Selsdon. I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Dobbs, on accepting a challenge that even Eddie the Eagle would have balked at, but he made an elegant speech. The outstanding feature of this debate so far has been the total failure of the Bill’s supporters to address, let alone...

Education: Foreign Languages — Question (15 Oct 2013)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, does the noble Lord not agree that it would be a pity for efforts to teach foreign languages to be motivated by purely commercial interests? Trying to get people to be better business representatives abroad is surely not the only reason. Many of the people who are learning foreign languages find that in other countries they speak English anyway, and put us to shame. Would it not be...

EU: Police and Criminal Justice Measures — Motion to Agree (23 Jul 2013)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, I hope that noble Lords will indulge me if I repeat a quotation that I used some time ago in your Lordships’ House from the French writer Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, who said: “Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away”. As the final Back-Bench speaker in this debate I take his advice to heart. I have nothing more...

War Memorials — Question (18 Jul 2013)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord James, I would certainly like to see the 306 more widely memorialised around the country, but that is best left to the churches and local communities rather than to the Government. Would the Minister join me in paying tribute to my noble friend Lord Browne of Ladyton, who five years ago next month, against much opposition, as the newly appointed Secretary...

Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill: Committee (1st Day) (17 Jun 2013)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, I will be extremely brief. I am not sure whether I prefer the amendment set down by the noble Lords, Lord Hylton and Lord Cormack, or the one set down by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay, but I believe that either of them would help bridge the divide. Therefore, I am generally in favour of both of them and would be happy with either. The only point I want to make is to refer...

Queen’s Speech — Debate (5th Day) (15 May 2013)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, when I noted that my name was in the 50th position on the speakers list, I was minded to dig out an old after-dinner speech and seek to entertain your Lordships for a few minutes. However, I am very happy to note that the noble Lord, Lord Selsdon, in his inimitable way, has pre-empted me on that. With your Lordships’ indulgence I would like to say a few words by way of preface to...

Procedure of the House — Motion to Take Note (24 Apr 2013)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, I would like to be very brief. I have just three small points; or rather, they are not small, but I will try to put them briefly. Before I do so, I should say that I found the argument of the noble Lord, Lord Butler of Brockwell, very strong and, certainly for me, very convincing. First, I want to take up what the noble Earl, Lord Clancarty, just said, which was reflected by the...


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