Results 241–260 of 3194 for speaker:Lord Kingsland

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister, who has characteristically given a full and earnest response to my amendment in his customary way. In fact, I can save myself most of the trouble in winding up, because the noble Lord, Lord Elystan-Morgan, said it all for me in the most telling way in his previous intervention. The Government can reasonably be accused in a phrase that the noble...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: moved Amendment No. 52: Clause 13, page 9, leave out lines 41 and 42

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, Amendment No. 52 brings us to IPPs, which will also be the subject of later groupings. Before I introduce the amendment, I make it clear to your Lordships that I entirely accept that there is a real problem with IPPs and prison place availability. If you are in prison as a result of receiving an IPP and have served your minimum term, you cannot, as your Lordships well know, get out...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I do wish to press my amendment. The noble and learned Lord would, no doubt, not want the purity of his argument corrupted by the contents of my amendment. I respectfully suggest that he holds his fire until the next group of amendments, when he can put his always very welcome thoughts to your Lordships' House.

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, that is not our view. This amendment came from another place; another place has looked at the speech of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, and at the Minister's letter, and the view is retained that the amendment achieves what it sets out to do. I know that that is not the Government's view but it is the view that I must sustain at the Dispatch Box.

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I am of course most grateful to all your Lordships who have participated in this debate and the Minister for his reply. I think that this is the first time that I have tabled an amendment during the course of this Bill that has been received with such universal obloquy. I very much respect the quality of the arguments that have been advanced against my case. Nevertheless, the...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: Not entirely at the dinner table, my Lords.

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: moved Amendment No. 61: After Clause 19, insert the following new Clause— "Increase in maximum term that may be imposed on summary conviction of offence triable either way Section 282 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 (c. 44) (increase in maximum term that may be imposed on summary conviction of offence triable either way) shall come into force on the passing of this Act."

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, after the extremely elevated tone of the previous debate, I almost hesitate to introduce this amendment. Nevertheless, I will introduce it. This is one of a family of issues which the Government advanced, I think, following the report of the noble Lord, Lord Carter of Coles, on Report in another place. I am not going to speculate on the reasons why a number of these measures were...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I do not blame him for it, but the Minister was extremely blunt in his opening sentence when he said that he had absolutely no intention of accepting my amendment. It may seem a minor matter when compared with many others that we have debated today, but we consider it to be an extremely important amendment. Given the unremitting way in which the Minister has responded, I wish to...

Procedure Committee: First Report (3 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I always learn something new when I listen to my noble friend Lord Brooke. I add my support to this initiative. There was an earlier attempt in the mid-1990s, within the framework of the so-called Jellicoe committees, to introduce a similar initiative. Unfortunately, it foundered because we were rather overambitious and introduced Bills which had an element of controversy in them....

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (21 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, the Minister asked me whether I would be pleased at the concession that the Government have made on this matter. Of course I am, and I acknowledge that freely. While not every concern that we expressed has been recognised, the substance has—and for that, I am much in his and the Government's debt.

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (21 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of Berwick, should not be surprised by the Government's change of tack on this issue. He should have learnt by now that even if the Government accept the wisdom and substance of an amendment tabled by a member of the Opposition or the Cross Benches, they find it difficult to accept the exact wording. It is in that context, and no other, that...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (21 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, we broadly support the propositions advanced by the noble Baroness, Lady Falkner. I note that the Standing Committee for Youth Justice produced a compelling paper, arguing in her favour. The philosophies of that paper and the proposed amendment are identical. The Government are denying themselves an important degree of flexibility in dealing with this class of offenders, which is...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (21 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: moved Amendment No. 82: Clause 55, page 38, line 3, at end insert— "( ) After subsection (1) (designation of non-legal staff) insert— "(1A) A person designated under subsection (1) shall only be permitted to carry out any legal activity as defined by section 12 of the Legal Services Act 2007 (c. 29) if he has been authorised so to do by a body which is designated as an approved regulator...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (21 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I move Amendment No. 82 and speak to the other amendments in the group. The general issue raised by these amendments is under what circumstances non-legally qualified CPS employees could appear in certain classes of contested summary cases in magistrates' courts. Two issues divide the Opposition from the Government. First, what provision is needed in the Bill to ensure that the...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (21 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I had imagined that that matter would be dealt with by the noble Lord, Lord West of Spithead, but I did not see him in his place so I omitted to say anything about it. However, we think it wholly inappropriate for a non-legally qualified CPS employee to deal with a VOO, which is an assessment of whether or not somebody is safe to remain at large in society. It is wrong for somebody...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (21 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I thank the noble and learned Baroness for her full reply and thank all noble—and noble and learned—Lords who have spoken in this debate. I ask forgiveness from all of your Lordships if I do not refer to each excellent contribution. The noble and learned Baroness expressed concern about my troubled heart. If I may plagiarise a famous line from the film "Casablanca", my heart is...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (21 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: moved Amendments Nos. 83 to 84A: Clause 55, page 38, line 5, at end insert "or offences which are punishable with imprisonment" Clause 55, page 38, line 18, after "courts" insert "other than trials of offences triable either way or offences which are punishable with imprisonment" Clause 55, page 38, leave out lines 31 to 35 On Question, amendments agreed to.

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (21 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I said in Committee that the Opposition would be having a free vote on this matter. Personally, I shall be supporting the amendment from my noble friend.


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