Results 221–240 of 3194 for speaker:Lord Kingsland

Constitution (25 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I hope that your Lordships will forgive me for not having read the three-volume edition of the Government's latest views on the constitution, which arrived on my desk some 20 minutes ago. My reaction will have to be based on what the Minister said. There are some things in the Statement that we welcome, in particular the decision of the Government to reverse the legislation in the...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (26 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: moved Amendment No. 1: Clause 1, page 2, line 14, after "Schedule)," insert— "( ) a reparation requirement (see paragraph 24A of that Schedule),"

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (26 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, this amendment is in identical terms to the one tabled in Committee on 5 February and debated between cols. 978 and 981. I have no intention of repeating my opening remarks, but I shall summarise them. The youth rehabilitation order embraces a number of previous low, medium and high-effect orders in a single unit. I expressed my bewilderment at the Government's decision to keep...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (26 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I thank the Minister for his full reply. He has striven hard to convince me of the error of my ways and I at least appreciate the effort that he has put into it. However, I remain totally confused as to why the Government should have picked out one low-level requirement—reparation —rather than a number of others, such as, as I said, limited attendance centre requirements or...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (26 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I thank the Minister not only for the amendments but for the extremely generous way in which he introduced them. We are absolutely delighted that they are now in the Bill.

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (26 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: moved Amendment No. 26: Clause 5, page 4, line 6, after "offender's" insert ", or his immediate family's,"

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (26 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I tabled this amendment in Committee and have brought it back on Report partly because the noble Lord, Lord Bassam of Brighton, said that he would go away and think about it. I have received a letter, for which I am extremely grateful, setting out the results of his cerebrations between Committee and Report. As currently drafted, Clause 5 places a duty on the responsible officer to...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (26 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I think every responsible officer should have a copy of the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Bach, in his knapsack. I am most grateful to the Minister and I promise that I shall not bring this matter back at Third Reading. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (26 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: moved Amendment No. 27: Clause 5, page 4, line 14, at end insert "written"

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (26 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, this amendment was dealt with on 6 February in Committee at col. 1092. It concerns the obligation to have an audit trail for community orders. The government position in Committee was that it is not necessary to specify in the Bill what is basic case management and that the level of detail demanded by our amendment was inappropriate. Of course, I know that it is normal practice for...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (26 Mar 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for his reply, but I cannot disguise my dismay at hearing it—and my surprise. As I said, given the Government's concern about breach and the likelihood of certain offenders coming back on several occasions to be confronted with the consequences of breach, in my submission the absence of a proper written record would undermine their individual...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, in considering these clauses in Committee, your Lordships will have heard one of the most distinguished debates that has ever taken place in your Lordships' House, greatly enriching the pages of Hansard. It is a testimony to the self-discipline of all your Lordships this afternoon that your Lordships have restrained yourselves from repeating all those matters, but have taken them as...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I hope that in making my observations about the noble Lord's amendment I paid due tribute to the spirit that lay behind it. We are dealing with a sentencing system. Although welfare should infect every part of the youth justice system, for the purposes of this Bill the crucial institution is the court. Therefore, the judges must be absolutely clear what obligations lie on their...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, on that last point, the Government would have made their task on the purposes substantially easier if, in proposed new paragraph (c), they had put, "the purposes of sentencing mentioned in subsection (4) (so far as it is not required to do so by paragraphs (a) and (b))". That would have expressly incorporated the welfare factor into the purposes; then the Government would have met...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: moved Amendment No. 38: Clause 9, page 7, line 14, after "of" insert "financial compensation or other appropriate"

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, this amendment came upon me a little more swiftly than I expected; I apologise. This is a short matter compared to previous ones or compared to most matters in the Bill. I have only brought it back to your Lordships because of the very generous offer that the Minister made at the end of his reply to me in Committee: "I am happy to take away the provision to see whether anything more...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, I could not have asked for a more generous reply from the Minister. I am most grateful to him, and of course I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, your Lordships' House owes a great debt to the noble Baroness, Lady Falkner, for tabling the amendment. We have debated a great deal the damage that is done to children who are placed in custody, but we have talked about it in general terms of principle. The noble Baroness has introduced an amendment that would specifically limit the powers of the court to put children in custody...

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: moved Amendment No. 48: Clause 10, leave out Clause 10

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill (2 Apr 2008)

Lord Kingsland: My Lords, this amendment was thoroughly debated in Committee. Therefore, I can be reasonably telegraphic in introducing it again at Report. Clause 10 proposes that suspended sentences cannot be ordered for summary offences heard in magistrates' courts. The Government's argument for advancing that is that if the option to issue a suspended sentence is denied the court, it will impose a...


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