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Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (6 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: My Lords, during the Bill's passage through this House, there has been widespread—almost total—support for the Government's intention of combating terrorism. There has been an acceptance that they need additional powers and that those powers are valid. However, they are valid solely for the specific purpose of preserving national security and combating terrorism. As we have heard, the...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (4 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: I shall be brief as we have discussed these issues a number of times this evening. The Government are asking a lot in asking Parliament to accept Clauses 102 and 103. The noble Lord, Lord Phillips of Sudbury, and my noble friend Lord Northesk on the Front Bench have highlighted the principal issues. The central point seems to be that the Government are picking a fight unnecessarily. No Member...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (4 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: It is clear that the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, and my noble friend Lord Northesk have put their fingers on a central problem. I do not envy the Minister's task in defining Xcommunications provider". As my noble friend Lord Northesk said, during debates on RIP we went round in circles for a long time trying to nail down what a communications provider was. It is clear that we all know, more or...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (4 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: In responding to the amendments, the Minister has an excellent opportunity to reassure the Committee and the industry about what circumstances are in the Government's mind with regard to Clause 103—under what circumstances they would seek to introduce directions by statutory instrument rather than allow the voluntary code of practice to continue. We well know that the industry tends to know...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (4 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: The sentiments that have led my noble friend to put down these amendments are important. The Committee will recall when we were considering the RIP Bill, there were essentially three principal concerns: first, the civil rights argument; secondly, whether the provisions would be effective; and, thirdly, whether UK-based communications providers would be disadvantaged compared to their...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (4 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. I think that to an extent we are talking at cross-purposes. Many Members of the Committee who have spoken in favour of restricting the provision to national security agree with part of his argument. However, could not subsection(5) just read: XThe code of practice may include any such provision as appears to the Secretary of State to be necessary...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (4 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: Perhaps I may direct the attention of the Minister to my earlier intervention which concerned Amendment No. 170. Can the Minister explain to the Committee how, if subsection (5)(b) is removed, the Secretary of State's power to combat international terrorism will be constrained, given that he will then be able to draft the code in such a way as to include any provision as appears to him to be...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (4 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: With the greatest respect, that answer is not worthy of a government Minister who seeks to explain the Bill. I do not want to hear merely a repetition of what the noble Lord said, because it did not satisfy me. The Government have said that the Bill is designed to combat international terrorism. Under subsection (5)(a) the Secretary of State is allowed to draft a code in consultation in such...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (4 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: Perhaps I may raise a small point. The Minister said that the industry has to agree. Is that really the case? I had thought that industry had to be consulted; that is, that the Secretary of State will consult and then decide whether to agree with the sentiments expressed by industry.

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (4 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: The noble Lord, Lord Bassam, will tell the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, if he has not already done so, about how fierce the battles were in this House concerning the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act. Deeply held opinions were voiced by noble Lords and the legislation was substantially rewritten as a result. The Government will be aware that the proposal in effect to add to that Act further...

Written Answers — House of Lords: Heathrow Terminal 5 (4 Dec 2001)

Viscount Goschen: asked Her Majesty's Government: Whether, following the statement of Lord Falconer of Thoroton on 20 November (HL Deb, col. 1036), they can now confirm whether or not they released or authorised the release of any information to the media concerning the Secretary of State's decision to grant approval to the development of Terminal 5 at Heathrow Airport prior to the announcement to Parliament.

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (28 Nov 2001)

Viscount Goschen: This series of amendments appears to crystallise the arguments that we put forward in connection with a number of other amendments, including the group containing Amendment No. 37, earlier in this evening's proceedings. The Government have made it clear in a number of statements that the purpose of this legislation is very specific and that the Bill is targeted particularly at countering a...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (28 Nov 2001)

Viscount Goschen: The Minister is being extraordinarily patient and I apologise for intervening again, but I am not sure that he is right. Clause 17(2)(a) states that the purpose of the investigation has to be to counter terrorism. My noble friend Lord Onslow pointed out that the Minister said that the investigation could be into anything. The Minister's argument is rather like suggesting that one should be...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (28 Nov 2001)

Viscount Goschen: Before my noble friend responds to the Minister's comments, can the Minister explain what he understands to be the use of Clause 7 as it stands in the Bill? It states that the Treasury must keep an order under review. What does that mean? It is not specified unless that appears somewhere else in the Bill and I do not know about it. Exactly what review process has to be gone through? Would it...

Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Bill (28 Nov 2001)

Viscount Goschen: Before the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, speaks again to his amendment, I should like to ask the Minister a question. He objected to the use of the term Xinvolving terrorism". I agree with my noble friend Lord Onslow and the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, that the Bill should be restricted to terrorism. I see no reference to national security. Clause 4(2)(b) refers to, Xaction constituting a threat...

Heathrow Terminal 5 (20 Nov 2001)

Viscount Goschen: My Lords, now that the Government have come forward with a decision on this important issue, no one should under-estimate the complexities or the controversial nature of the decision. I, for one, fully understand why it has taken the Government some time to digest the very full report from the inspector. What the decision does provide is clarity for all concerned, particularly those in the...

Public Services (12 Nov 2001)

Viscount Goschen: asked Her Majesty's Government: What role they envisage for the private sector in enhancing the delivery of public services.

Public Services (12 Nov 2001)

Viscount Goschen: My Lords, how does the Minister reconcile the ambitions given in his Answer to enhance the use of the private sector with the reality of the critically damaged reputation that the Government now have with it, following their action to force one of their largest private sector partners—Railtrack—out of business and to bypass the statutory regulator entirely? Is not the inevitable...

Railways (31 Oct 2001)

Viscount Goschen: My Lords, the noble and learned Lord is very good at tempting me to my feet. I do not think that I made any of those comments. I said that the noble and learned Lord's administration had four-and-a-half years in which to look at the structure of Railtrack, but took no positive action to provide a remedy. When the Government did take action, it was a precipitate move to force the company out...

Railways (31 Oct 2001)

Viscount Goschen: My Lords, I must interrupt the noble Lord, but only once. A large part of my speech was taken up by admitting that there were flaws in the privatisation process--and, indeed, with elements of the structure. However, better options have never been proposed for a structure that would raise new investment and increase transparency.


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