Results 1–20 of 5242 for speaker:Lord Warner

Address in Reply to Her Majesty's Most Gracious Speech (24 Nov 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl for giving way. Will he confirm his understanding that if the Government do not amend the age of consent for homosexual young men to 16, this country will be in breach of the European Convention on Human Rights and by reference in breach of their own Human Rights Act?

Address in Reply to Her Majesty's Most Gracious Speech (24 Nov 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Stern, on her excellent maiden speech. I know well her work with NACRO and internationally over many years. I have the highest respect for her judgment and humanity, which she revealed today. This House is indeed fortunate to have the wise counsel and shrewd insights she will present to our debates. I believe that she will help us to find our...

Address in Reply to Her Majesty's Most Gracious Speech (24 Nov 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, with all due respect to the noble Baroness, she is wrong. As I understand the position, the case of Euan Sutherland was set aside so that the Government could introduce legislation before it was put to final decision by the courts. There was a clear expectation, on the basis of legal advice given to Ministers--noble Lords shake their heads; but it is a fact and although noble Lords...

Address in Reply to Her Majesty's Most Gracious Speech (24 Nov 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I understand that the Commission is not the same as the court. But the noble Baroness must understand that the Commission made a recommendation to the court and the Government were advised legally--the noble Baroness shakes her head but these are the facts--that they would lose in the court if the case was put to a final judgment. It is because this Government have regard for the...

Address in Reply to Her Majesty's Most Gracious Speech (24 Nov 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I have been interrupted many times. If I had been allowed to complete my speech I would have concluded much more quickly. Merely in the measures I have already mentioned, there are clear themes of better government, public protection and efficient criminal and social justice for neglected groups. I hope when we come to discuss those Bills in detail, we will be spared some of the...

Address in Reply to Her Majesty's Most Gracious Speech (24 Nov 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, over a number of years the noble Baroness has expressed a great deal of concern that homosexuality has considerable health hazards. Can she explain to the House how one can help people from the gay community to understand health hazards without making information widely available to them at an early age and through the teenage years?

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I support the changes in the Bill. I listened with some fascination to the confessions of my noble friend Lady Kennedy about her close relationship with the Home Secretary. I, too, must confess that I have known the Home Secretary for 25 years and have worked as his policy adviser. So I may well be described as one of these trimmers and bad company that the Home Secretary has fallen...

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, in my hurry I misrepresented the position. Perhaps I may continue. Since then there have been many reclassifications of offences which have restricted the area of choice to elect for venue and trial by jury. We have already heard about Scotland. The facts of life are that in Scotland the accused has never had the right to choose the court where the case is tried. Today the reality...

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord. If he had waited a little longer, I would soon have come to that point. In some of the cases, there is a strong suspicion that the accused elected for trial by jury so that their lawyers had time to secure lesser charges to which they could plead guilty--

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: Well, come on. They could then gain a more lenient sentence. Nine out of 10 of the convicted people who elected for trial at Crown Court had previous convictions, as my noble and learned friend the Attorney-General--

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord. I shall turn later to the issue of defendants from the ethnic minorities. He expressed more elegantly some of the facts that I was putting more crudely. I want to put on the record that nine out of 10 convicted people who elected for trial at the Crown Court had previous convictions. That is a fact. It is not a matter of opinion; it is a fact. One...

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I do not accept that the noble Lord has made a point which destroys the factual argument I have tried to put forward. Perhaps I may continue to run the argument. Many of us sat patiently while the noble Lord expressed his arguments and did not intervene quite so often. We are not in court now. There may be some who believe that magistrates may become power-crazed under these...

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I am afraid that the noble Baroness is not allowed to ask that question--

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, she is allowed to ask it, but I do not have to answer it, if I may say so.

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I might elect to answer it, but I suggest that I am entitled to behave in exactly the same way as does the noble Baroness, Lady Kennedy, and many noble Lords in protecting client confidentiality in these matters. I want to turn to the question of whether defendants from ethnic minorities will be disadvantaged under the legislation. I must confess that this is one aspect of the...

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I am well aware of that evidence, but I believe that there is an excitableness about many Members of this House who come from a criminal law background. It would be nice if one could continue the flow of the argument for a little while as some of us who do not come from that elegant background have sat patiently and listened to many of their arguments when we have not agreed with...

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, I must put my position quite clearly. I refuse to say what advice I may or may not have given to the Home Secretary as a policy adviser, which is quite proper for me to do. The noble Earl is not in any position to draw the inference which he has drawn. I am not going to expand any further, but I believe that he is misleading the House by drawing the inference which he has drawn from...

Criminal Justice (Mode of Trial) Bill [H.L.] ( 2 Dec 1999)

Lord Warner: My Lords, will the noble Lord accept that I did not go into the detail of that study because I did not feel it was fair as I did not realise the noble Lord had the full briefing. If he reads Hansard tomorrow he will see that my point was that the evidence did not support the idea that people from ethnic minorities would be disadvantaged in magistrates' courts. I did not claim that they would...

Task Forces (23 Feb 2000)

Lord Warner: My Lords, we are all grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Smith, for giving us the opportunity to discuss and debate task forces. First, I declare an interest. I was the chairman of the task force on youth justice that operated between June 1997 and July 1998 and I am a member of the ministerial task force on the Government's response to the children's safeguard review. Both those experiences...

Task Forces (23 Feb 2000)

Lord Warner: My Lords, does the noble Baroness accept that she could do what I did, which was to ask the Library to give a list of the task forces, with all the categories of people on them? She could then add them up. If she did that, she would have no difficulty. Does she accept that?


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