Vernon Coaker: Emily, could you say a little about the difficulty with elderly people disclosing the fact that they are victims of this sort of abuse, and how difficult that must be? This morning, somebody raised the issue of older people, and I think this is a problem as you get older—hopefully, younger people have a different attitude, which is that you don’t suffer in silence. Have you made any...
Vernon Coaker: Q In your evidence to us just a few minutes ago, you said that there were some issues with the Bill and that you would be happy to share them with the Committee. Could you please do that?
Vernon Coaker: Q Say that again. Four?
Vernon Coaker: Q How many are there altogether, do you know?
Vernon Coaker: Q Do you know what the estimates are? How many marriages are there?
Vernon Coaker: Q Do you know what it is for 16-year-olds? The Minister will be able to get that.
Vernon Coaker: Q Was that figure of 200 for England and Wales?
Vernon Coaker: Q Have the Government made an estimate of the number of non-registered marriages?
Vernon Coaker: Ten women—
Vernon Coaker: ThankQ you, Zoe, for coming along. Are there serial offenders among police forces in terms of variance? Are there forces that you go to that are not as good as they should be, and then you go back and they are still not as good as they should be? I think I know the answer. If that is the case, what can you do about it and why cannot we do anything about it? You identify the problem, but then...
Vernon Coaker: Q But what if the public wanted to know that? If you want to know how good a school’s exam results are, it is quite easy to find out—it is quite easy to compare schools. That is not so true of police forces, is it? I mean, what you say is quite right, but we know that there are police forces that do not improve their way of tackling domestic abuse by their serious violence strategy going...
Vernon Coaker: Q No—I just threw that out there. I am just trying. I do not agree with that either, but I am frustrated by the lack of that sort of thing.
Vernon Coaker: Q An 88% rise? When is the base year for that?
Vernon Coaker: Q Sorry to interrupt; I am just trying to think. Was that 10% of crime that people have gone to?
Vernon Coaker: That is very helpful.
Vernon Coaker: Welcome to the post. What should we say in the Bill about perpetrators? There is a lot about prevention orders and so on, but Q what should we say about that? Should we say anything about rehabilitation or should we just lock them all up? What should we do?
Vernon Coaker: Q Did you say you had seen the draft of the framework document—that you have been talking to the Minister about a draft of the framework?
Vernon Coaker: Q Did you say you have seen a draft?
Vernon Coaker: Q Do you think it would be helpful for the Committee see that draft when we get to clause 10?
Vernon Coaker: Q That is very helpful. So we are going to see a draft before we get to clause 10 rather than at the end. That is helpful; thank you very much.