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Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: I am sure that my hon. Friend does not want to run away with himself. My understanding of what the hon. Member for Eltham is trying to do is as follows. When the Bill states that the Secretary of State must “ensure that the health service is a public service which delivers services of general economic interest”, the hon. Gentleman is not trying to ensure that the health service is a...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: My hon. Friend is right. I wonder whether that is a two-edged sword. If such a provision were unlawful and trumped by the 1972 legislation, that might make it null and void. I think we ought to be wary of passing legislation that is null and void, particularly when we have the opportunity to consider it in the light of the learning I have talked about.

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: Indeed. The Minister knows, as I hope I have said enough times, a great deal more about this than I do—that would not be difficult. I hope that he will cover that point in his own speech, because it is of extreme importance in whether we agree that the clause should stand part of the Bill. In this definition patch of the working document the authors go on to define a social service of...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: Oh dear, my hon. Friend once again plumbs the depths of my knowledge, or my ignorance. I hope that the Minister will be able to explain this to the Committee better than I can. What we are doing in clause 1 is asserting that the national health service is a social service of general interest, which is economic in nature. The question is, can that really be true? The next question is, can we...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: That is indeed useful to know, Mr Bone, because it means that we can perhaps range a bit wider and discuss not merely the amendments that are before the Committee at the moment. Paragraph 2.5 of the OFT paper states: “When assessing whether the provision of state services is economic in nature or relates to non-economic administrative or social functions, the OFT will, while taking into...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: I am sure that my hon. Friend does not want to run away with himself. My understanding of what the hon. Member for Eltham is trying to do is as follows. When the Bill states that the Secretary of State must “ensure that the health service is a public service which delivers services of general economic interest”, the hon. Gentleman is not trying to ensure that the health service is a...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: My hon. Friend is right. I wonder whether that is a two-edged sword. If such a provision were unlawful and trumped by the 1972 legislation, that might make it null and void. I think we ought to be wary of passing legislation that is null and void, particularly when we have the opportunity to consider it in the light of the learning I have talked about.

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: My hon. Friend is far too flattering. I do not know that I am widely regarded as anything, really, but I will do my best to help the Committee by saying that, for a definition of what a service of general interest is, we are going to have to look elsewhere than to the treaties or the protocols. One good place to start is the 110-page Commission staff working document.

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: My right hon. Friend is right, although I have to say that my signature means little, apart from on a cheque. We could resolve the issue in other ways, such as by leaving out the entire clause or, indeed, according to my amendment 1, by leaving out subsection (b) and (c), which is my primary aim.

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: We do indeed and I suspect we will discuss the issues at a little length to get to the bottom of precisely what the words in the Bill and the amendment mean. Yet to decide whether to amend the Bill, it would be wise and helpful to work out what the Bill itself says. My right hon. Friend, in his impatient way, wants to short-circuit things. I cannot understand why he wants to do that, because...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: I am entirely with my right hon. Friend. To be fair to my hon. Friend the Member for North East Somerset, that is precisely what he was saying. It was my right hon. Friend the Member for East Yorkshire who was trying to short-circuit.

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: I am glad that we have been able to clear up that natural misunderstanding. I said that I was concerned that the treaties and protocols did not bother to define what they meant. Despite their free and easy use of the words “service of general interest” we have to look elsewhere, and I suggest that we look at this working document. On page 21, it asks: “What is a service of general...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: I can and I shall. The answer is that it is not part of EU law. It is merely a helpful guide to tourists such as me who wander into Brussels for a bit of light entertainment. The document says right at the beginning: “This document is a working paper prepared by the Commission’s services. It provides technical explanations, in particular on the basis of concise and sometimes simplified...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: I am extremely sorry. I am going a little rapidly for me, actually. My hon. Friend will be pleased to know that the question of what is an entrustment is dealt with in paragraph 51 of the working document. I will come on to it in a moment or two, and I hope I will be able to explain it to the Committee. The definition of a service of general economic interest in the working document...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: My hon. Friend is far too flattering. I do not know that I am widely regarded as anything, really, but I will do my best to help the Committee by saying that, for a definition of what a service of general interest is, we are going to have to look elsewhere than to the treaties or the protocols. One good place to start is the 110-page Commission staff working document.

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: My right hon. Friend is right, although I have to say that my signature means little, apart from on a cheque. We could resolve the issue in other ways, such as by leaving out the entire clause or, indeed, according to my amendment 1, by leaving out subsection (b) and (c), which is my primary aim.

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: We do indeed and I suspect we will discuss the issues at a little length to get to the bottom of precisely what the words in the Bill and the amendment mean. Yet to decide whether to amend the Bill, it would be wise and helpful to work out what the Bill itself says. My right hon. Friend, in his impatient way, wants to short-circuit things. I cannot understand why he wants to do that, because...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: I am entirely with my right hon. Friend. To be fair to my hon. Friend the Member for North East Somerset, that is precisely what he was saying. It was my right hon. Friend the Member for East Yorkshire who was trying to short-circuit.

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: I am glad that we have been able to clear up that natural misunderstanding. I said that I was concerned that the treaties and protocols did not bother to define what they meant. Despite their free and easy use of the words “service of general interest” we have to look elsewhere, and I suggest that we look at this working document. On page 21, it asks: “What is a service of general...

Public Bill Committee: National Health Service (Amended Duties and Powers) Bill: Clause 1 - Duty on the Secretary of State to promote comprehensive health service based on social solidarity (24 Feb 2015)

James Arbuthnot: I can and I shall. The answer is that it is not part of EU law. It is merely a helpful guide to tourists such as me who wander into Brussels for a bit of light entertainment. The document says right at the beginning: “This document is a working paper prepared by the Commission’s services. It provides technical explanations, in particular on the basis of concise and sometimes simplified...


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