Clause 9 - Pensions promise obtained from third party

Part of Pension Schemes Bill – in a Public Bill Committee at 11:00 am on 28th October 2014.

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Photo of Gregg McClymont Gregg McClymont Shadow Minister (Work and Pensions) 11:00 am, 28th October 2014

I think this is an appropriate moment to raise again with the Minister the issue of regulation. I found it striking, although understandable and expected, in the sense that the Minister referred there to the Secretary of State, in concert with the Pensions Regulator, setting the rules regarding occupational pensions under the TPR. At the same time, the Minister went on to say that those other types of schemes would be under the regulation of the FCA. Does he have any observations on whether the route that the Bill takes us down raises questions about whether it remains appropriate to have two regulators? What about the issues around the benefits and potential costs of a two-regulator system in pensions? Does the Bill begin to eliminate some of those issues? Would he like to have these pension schemes under the ambit of one regulator? I know he will not commit to that in any deliberate sense, but does he think there are issues around the fact that we have two regulators in pensions, and does the Bill eliminate some of those issues?