Clause 14 - Disclosure proceedings

Justice and Security Bill [Lords] – in a Public Bill Committee at on 7 February 2013.

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Amendment proposed (this day): 78, in clause 14, page 11, line 14, at end insert ‘where that information relates to national security or the interests of the United Kingdom’.—(Diana Johnson.)

Question again proposed, That the amendment be made.

Photo of David Crausby David Crausby Labour, Bolton North East

I remind the Committee that with this we are discussing the following:

Amendment 79, in clause 14, page 11, line 15, leave out ‘an’ and insert ‘a foreign’.

Amendment 80, in clause 14, page 11, line 17, leave out ‘an’ and insert ‘a foreign’.

Amendment 81, in clause 14, page 11, line 18, leave out paragraph (d).

Photo of Diana R. Johnson Diana R. Johnson Shadow Minister (Home Affairs)

I welcome you back to the Committee after our short break, Mr Crausby. It was interesting to hear what the Under-Secretary of State for Justice, the hon. Member for Kenilworth and Southam, had to say. I think he moved from a non-speaking part to a speaking part very well. Clearly, I did not agree with everything he said, but I thought he put it very well. I look forward to seeing whether the hon. Member for Edinburgh West will table some amendments on Report to represent his view. I am not sure whether it is his view alone or one that he shares with other Liberal Democrats or the coalition Government. My right hon. Friend the Member for Torfaen talked with vast knowledge and experience on the subject. I found it difficult to believe that he was ever a green Minister of State; I am sure he was accomplished from the start.

After listening carefully to the Minister, I still have concerns about clause 14. It must deal with the control principle and the relationship we have with our allies and countries that provide intelligence to us, and I am still concerned that it is too widely drafted. I want to test the Committee’s opinion on amendment 78, but I will reserve the Opposition’s position on amendments 79 to 81 and we might return to the matter on Report.

Question put, That the amendment be made.

The Committee divided: Ayes 7, Noes 10.

Division number 11 Decision Time — Clause 14 - Disclosure proceedings

Aye: 7 MPs

No: 10 MPs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Question accordingly negatived.

Clause 14 ordered to stand part of the Bill.