Examination of Witnesses

Part of Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Bill – in a Public Bill Committee at 10:47 am on 21st June 2011.

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Keir Starmer: I think we need to be reasonably clear about this. The chances of getting admissible evidence for a prosecution after an order is put in place are much  reduced, because the fact of the order is open—it is known to the individual—as are the conditions. I understand the thinking that, under the old control order regime, by controlling the individual and stopping them engaging in activity which might be criminal, you are hardly likely to further a criminal investigation. So far, that is true. We have prosecuted one individual who was on a control order, but that was as a result of information that came to light that related to his activities pre-control order. I appreciate that part of the thinking behind the Bill is that, if you could have a different approach that allowed the investigation to continue in a slightly different way, you might get a different result. I would not stand in the way of that, but, speaking frankly, there is not a great chance of getting evidence after the imposition of the order. There might be a chance of getting evidence about behaviour before the order.