Schedule 2 - Abolition of certain additions to the state pension: consequential amendments etc

Pensions Bill [Lords] – in a Public Bill Committee at 3:30 pm on 7 July 2011.

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Question proposed, That the schedule be the Second schedule to the Bill.

Photo of Steve Webb Steve Webb The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions

The Committee will have read that schedule 2 covers the amendments consequential upon the abolition of the PUCODI. There are often references in other legislation to particular bits of the system, and if we do away with a bit of the system and do not do away with the references, we have defective legislation. Schedule 2 is fundamentally a technical schedule that does away with this complex bit of the system. I commend it to the Committee.

Photo of Malcolm Wicks Malcolm Wicks Labour, Croydon North

Another anomalous part of our system, despite its excellent origins, is the extra 25p that is paid to people when they are over 80. Many people have put it to us over the years that this should be amalgamated into the state pension in some way. Why  was it that the PUCODI—that is how we pronounce it in north London, anyway—grabbed the Minister’s attention rather than that other anomaly, which needs rationalising with the basic state pension?

Photo of Steve Webb Steve Webb The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions

I have to say, I always think of my predecessor but six, and the things he left me to sort out. All I can say is that we are working our way through the list. We have reached this one. Who knows what will happen to the 25p, but we are having a look at it.

Question put and agreed to.

Schedule 2 accordingly agreed to.