Jim McAuslan: Take, for example, the issue of fatigue. We asked our members whether they would feel comfortable reporting a fatigue incident to their airline. Some 51% of pilots said that they were comfortable reporting to their chief executive officer that they were fatigued.
We do not believe that there is, however good or however big the airline is, an open safety management culture inside airlines. When you look at accident investigations that have been carried out over a number of years—look at the reports carried out by Charles Haddon-Cave into a range of major accidents—you will find that it is the lack of openness in the culture that has been the driving force behind them. There has not been a just culture within the airlines. People do not file reports and they do not say they are fatigued, because they are fearful that by so doing they might put themselves in jeopardy. We have evidence, which I can supply to the Committee if it so wishes, as to where we think the culture is wrong at present.