Clause 46

Flood and Water Management Bill – in a Public Bill Committee at 3:30 pm on 21 January 2010.

Alert me about debates like this

Technical provision

Photo of Anne McIntosh Anne McIntosh Shadow Minister (Environment, Food and Rural Affairs) 3:45, 21 January 2010

I beg to move Amendment 41, in Clause 46, page 29, line 18, at end insert—

‘(a) Section 42 comes into effect not later than three months after Royal Assent.’.

Photo of Ann Winterton Ann Winterton Conservative, Congleton

With this it will be convenient to discuss Government Amendment 164.

Photo of Anne McIntosh Anne McIntosh Shadow Minister (Environment, Food and Rural Affairs)

I am pleased that we are making such good progress. Our Amendment is fairly straightforward. Its specific purpose is to require the Government to implement the provisions covering surface water charging within three months of the Bill becoming law. Following last summer’s flooding, we have made progress and it is timely to introduce those provisions. That was a new form of flooding, and surface water charging is pertinent.

Water companies have already planned their charging schemes for next year in the expectation that surface water charging will not be in place, but if implementation is delayed beyond the summer, companies’ ability to plan the following year’s charging schemes will be impeded. We would welcome certainty from the Minister about when the changes will take place, and that would be welcome to the companies concerned.

The amendment would also have an impact on customers, who have already had a long wait for a solution. The Government could have acted before last summer, but chose to wait for the Bill. I am sure that customers would also welcome clarity about when they may expect their Bills to be reduced.

That is the purport of amendment 41, and I have great pleasure in inviting the Committee to support it in the spirit in which it was moved.

Photo of Huw Irranca-Davies Huw Irranca-Davies Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs) (Marine and Natural Environment)

I appreciate the spirit in which Amendment 41 was moved. It would automatically bring Clause 42 into effect if the Secretary of State or Welsh Ministers do not commence the new provision within three months of Royal Assent. I recognise the need for early commencement of clause 42, but it would still be too late to use it to introduce concessions for the next charging year of 2010-11 even if Royal Assent were obtained within the next month.

The charging year for water Bills is from April to March, and bills for unmeasured customers are sent out even before that. That follows the granting of Ofwat approval of charging schemes that require companies to prepare them by September each year and on which there is consultation with the Consumer Council for Water. Final approval of charging schemes is usually obtained in February, before the bills are sent out.

The amendment would not cause a problem in Wales, although one of the four English water and sewerage companies, Severn Trent Water, supplies many customers in Wales. It would also not cause a problem for companies that do not intend to move to site area charging. However, the four companies that already charge in that way would either have to work out a hasty timetable with Ofwat to introduce new schemes by April 2010, or carry out an expensive bill-adjustment exercise to meet the timetable proposed in the amendment.

We intend to consult on the draft guidance that has gone out to the Committee when the Bill has completed its parliamentary stages, and to commence the relevant part of the provision in plenty of time for water companies that want to move to area-based charges and/or introduce concessionary schemes for the 2011-12 financial year to develop their schemes. Given that clarification of why it is nigh on impossible to achieve the objective in the amendment, I hope that the hon. Lady will withdraw it.

Government amendment 164 is a technical amendment to ensure that the power to commence provisions in the Bill is consistent with devolution arrangements. The general position is that the Secretary of State has power to commence provisions in relation to England, and Welsh Ministers in relation to Wales. This is provided for in clause 46(3)(b) and (c). Exceptions are set out in clause 46(3)(a), (d) and (e). This amendment sets out further exceptions to that general position, which have been agreed with the Welsh Assembly Government and were deemed necessary properly to reflect the basis on which the clause, to which the commencement provision relates, is devolved. So it is a technical issue.

Photo of Anne McIntosh Anne McIntosh Shadow Minister (Environment, Food and Rural Affairs)

I thank the Minister for his clarification. It was an important point and we welcome the opportunity to debate it. I beg to ask leave to withdraw the Amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Amendment made: 164, in clause 46, page 29, line 19, leave out paragraph (a) and insert—

‘(a) sections 22(1)(a), 28, 29, 34 (and Schedule 5), 40, 43 and paragraph 42 of Schedule 4 come into force in accordance with provision made by order of the Secretary of State,

(aa) section 22(1)(b) and (2) and sections 23 to 26, so far as they relate to English Committees, come into force in accordance with provision made by order of the Secretary of State,

(ab) section 22(1)(b) and (2) and sections 23 to 26, so far as they relate to Welsh Committees, come into force in accordance with provision made by order of the Welsh Ministers,

(ac) sections 35, 36, 41 and 42, so far as they relate to water or sewerage undertakers whose areas are wholly or mainly in England, come into force in accordance with provision made by order of the Secretary of State,

(ad) sections 35, 36, 41 and 42, so far as they relate to water or sewerage undertakers whose areas are wholly or mainly in Wales, come into force in accordance with provision made by order of the Welsh Ministers,

(ae) section 37, so far as it relates to orders made by a Minister of the Crown under Part 3 of the Regulatory Enforcement and Sanctions Act 2008, comes into force in accordance with provision made by order of the Secretary of State,

(af) section 37, so far as it relates to orders made by the Welsh Ministers under Part 3 of the Regulatory Enforcement and Sanctions Act 2008, comes into force in accordance with provision made by order of the Welsh Ministers,’.—(Huw Irranca-Davies.)

Clause 46, as amended, ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Clause

A parliamentary bill is divided into sections called clauses.

Printed in the margin next to each clause is a brief explanatory `side-note' giving details of what the effect of the clause will be.

During the committee stage of a bill, MPs examine these clauses in detail and may introduce new clauses of their own or table amendments to the existing clauses.

When a bill becomes an Act of Parliament, clauses become known as sections.

amendment

As a bill passes through Parliament, MPs and peers may suggest amendments - or changes - which they believe will improve the quality of the legislation.

Many hundreds of amendments are proposed by members to major bills as they pass through committee stage, report stage and third reading in both Houses of Parliament.

In the end only a handful of amendments will be incorporated into any bill.

The Speaker - or the chairman in the case of standing committees - has the power to select which amendments should be debated.

clause

A parliamentary bill is divided into sections called clauses.

Printed in the margin next to each clause is a brief explanatory `side-note' giving details of what the effect of the clause will be.

During the committee stage of a bill, MPs examine these clauses in detail and may introduce new clauses of their own or table amendments to the existing clauses.

When a bill becomes an Act of Parliament, clauses become known as sections.

bills

A proposal for new legislation that is debated by Parliament.

Minister

Ministers make up the Government and almost all are members of the House of Lords or the House of Commons. There are three main types of Minister. Departmental Ministers are in charge of Government Departments. The Government is divided into different Departments which have responsibilities for different areas. For example the Treasury is in charge of Government spending. Departmental Ministers in the Cabinet are generally called 'Secretary of State' but some have special titles such as Chancellor of the Exchequer. Ministers of State and Junior Ministers assist the ministers in charge of the department. They normally have responsibility for a particular area within the department and are sometimes given a title that reflects this - for example Minister of Transport.

Secretary of State

Secretary of State was originally the title given to the two officials who conducted the Royal Correspondence under Elizabeth I. Now it is the title held by some of the more important Government Ministers, for example the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.

Amendment

As a bill passes through Parliament, MPs and peers may suggest amendments - or changes - which they believe will improve the quality of the legislation.

Many hundreds of amendments are proposed by members to major bills as they pass through committee stage, report stage and third reading in both Houses of Parliament.

In the end only a handful of amendments will be incorporated into any bill.

The Speaker - or the chairman in the case of standing committees - has the power to select which amendments should be debated.