Clause 118

Part of Equality Bill – in a Public Bill Committee at 1:15 pm on 25 June 2009.

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Photo of John Penrose John Penrose Shadow Minister (Business, Innovation and Skills) 1:15, 25 June 2009

I take the Minister’s point; I see what she is driving at. My concern is that if, for example, equal opportunities training was mandated, people might go through training and come out the other side having ticked all the right boxes, but not necessarily adhere to it afterwards. I am trying to make a point about the difference between mandating an outcome to be achieved by whatever means, which still leaves a duty and a burden on the organisation to achieve it, and mandating a process whereby, when it is complete, the organisation can say, “We did it, whether or not the outcome was as desired originally by the tribunal.”