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I am listening with great care to the debate and understand both sides of the argument, but I want to throw one thing in: the Homicide Act 1957. On a plea of diminished responsibility that is not accepted by the Crown, the decision then goes to the jury. That supports the hon. and learned Gentleman’s contention, I think. I also throw in the point that, for many years, lay magistrates have been very comfortable with their role in determining facts in Newton hearings in magistrates courts.