Before we start to go around in circles, I want to come back with one point about mens rea, which, as the hon. Member for Birmingham, Yardley knows, is all about intent. I shall not name the country this time, because I know that it will get me into trouble, but there is a problem in my force area with a certain community that is constantly breaking driving regulations. That has led to accidents, and people are driving around without tax, insurance, MOTs or anything else whatsoever.
The issue that concerns me is not simply that the driving rules are being flouted, but that people driving without licences are causing a danger to others. Should they be involved in an accident, imprisonment of more than 12 months is unlikely because there will not have been an intent to cause serious harm to somebody, although that might be what actually happens. I put it to the Committee that people who deliberately flout rules in a systematic fashion should not be made welcome in this country, and we should have no obligation to them, regardless of whether they do or do not intend to cause somebody a serious injury.