Clause 25

Part of Further Education and Training Bill [Lords] – in a Public Bill Committee at 1:45 pm on 14th June 2007.

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Photo of John Hayes John Hayes Shadow Minister (14-19 Reform and Apprenticeships) 1:45 pm, 14th June 2007

The Minister is dealing with the matter in a considered and professional way. He seems to be saying that it is sometimes better to handle matters through primary legislation, because that allows for the sort of full and open debate that we are having here. However, the Welsh Affairs Committee is particular, as he has identified, about the importance of pre-legislative scrutiny, especially in the sort of case in which, in its terms, primary legislation could be a device for a general, rather than a specific, extension of powers.

The Bill has had a long journey through the House. It started in the Lords some time ago, and it has been a cause of frustration among Opposition Front Benchers that it has taken so long to reach this Committee. Was the Welsh Affairs Committee involved at all—that is one of my five questions, of which I shall remind the Committee at the end—in this piece of legislation? If it was, although the Minister’s points are being made in good faith, we still have a problem.