New Clause 7

Part of Further Education and Training Bill [Lords] – in a Public Bill Committee at 1:00 pm on 14th June 2007.

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Photo of John Hayes John Hayes Shadow Minister (14-19 Reform and Apprenticeships) 1:00 pm, 14th June 2007

The Minister is making a great deal of this; I think that he is slightly scarred from my scathing attack on him earlier today and that he is hurt. Understandably, he wants to get back at me a bit. The truth is that I have looked at my speech on Second Reading, to which he is referring, and I cannot find the details that he describes in the form that he describes.

Indeed, I looked at the breakdown of the LSC’s expenditure, and its annual report makes it absolutely  clear that £1.8 billion of expenditure is not spent directly with those providing training. That is not to say that it is all wasted money—of course it is not—but that was the only point that I made, and I wish that the Minister would move on a little and talk about the business before us, rather than this exaggerated series of claims that he is making about the Conservative Opposition.