Clause 16

Part of Further Education and Training Bill [Lords] – in a Public Bill Committee at 12:45 pm on 12th June 2007.

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Photo of John Hayes John Hayes Shadow Minister (14-19 Reform and Apprenticeships) 12:45 pm, 12th June 2007

The hon. Gentleman has rightly drawn attention to the price of freedom. In a world which is frail and faulted, as we have fallen from the state of grace, the price of liberty is that sometimes there are imperfections in the way in which individuals and organisations operate. If the choice is between the risk of that kind of imperfection and a system which is so strangled by bureaucracy and so micro-managed from the centre that every opportunity for any kind of imaginative exercise of the very substantial talents that lie in the FE sector is limited, I will go with the risk of imperfection. I would rather that than see people constrained; strangled and suffocated by bureaucracy, over-regulation and control freakery. I know the hon. Gentleman would no more want to see that than Opposition Members would. I happily give way to the Minister, as we are running into lunch.