I want to take the Minister back to costs and savings and ask him to provide a bit more clarity. I refer him to the Learning and Skills Council’s annual report and accounts for 2005-06, in which Ray O’Dowd, whom he will know as the LSC “Agenda for Change” champion, described the changes that the LSC was making at that time:
“we will be working with providers in a more strategic, hands-off way. Working like this will need about 1,300 fewer staff, which will free as much as £40 million a year for investment at the front line. In the past year we have set out the reorganisation and staff changes that we need, and these should be in place by late 2006.”
I want to be clear that the savings of £40 million that the Minister has said will result from the proposals in the Bill are not the £40 million to which Ray O’Dowd referred in that document—Mr. O’Dowd suggested that the savings would be achieved by measures taken by the end of 2006.