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The hon. and learned Lady is very persuasive. She gave the Minister a lifeline on that point when she intervened a moment ago. My problem with that argument is that I looked into the comment made by the Under-Secretary on Second Reading, and it was exceedingly misleading. I went on a similar journey to that of the shadow Home Secretary. We started off thinking that there was a case for what is proposed, but as we talked to people who have to operate the system on both sides—those who certainly know more than I do about these matters—we became convinced that it was an error.
The Minister has not won the argument in Committee, which is why, no matter what the vote determines, we will return to it later in the parliamentary process.
Question put, That the clause stand part of the Bill:—
The Committee divided: Ayes 8, Noes 6.