This has been a more substantive debate. The intervention of the hon. Member for Doncaster, North was welcome. I do not know whether he remembers sharing a cab with me not long after Labour's victory in the 1997 general election. He explained the difficulty he was having as a Government Whip with some of the 1997 intake of Labour MPs over the importance of voting in the

Division Lobby rather than electronically. I do not think I am breaking any confidences in saying this, because he argued openly for the tradition of going through the Lobby. He said to MPs of the 1997 intake, ''If you don't go through the Lobby, you'll never get the chance to badger a Minister''. Now that he has returned to the Back Benches after distinguished service as a Government Whip he is taking the opportunity to badger the Minister in a different way, not in the Division Lobby but in Committee.