Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 2:58 pm on 17 November 2025.
Lord Livermore
The Financial Secretary to the Treasury
2:58,
17 November 2025
I do agree with everything the noble Lord said. I enjoyed discussing these matters with him when he was a Treasury official and I was a special adviser. I probably learned a lot of this from him then, so I completely agree with what he said. To repeat, the purpose of pension savings is to fund retirement. If taxpayers are spending £78 billion a year on that, it is very important that it is used for its intended purposes rather than for estate planning, as the noble Lord says.