Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Requisite and Minimum Custodial Periods) Order 2024 - Motion to Approve

Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 5:45 pm on 29 July 2024.

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Photo of Lord Deben Lord Deben Conservative 5:45, 29 July 2024

I wonder whether I may ask a very simple question. I very much support what is being put forward, but in my history no Government have ever answered the simple question: how come Britain locks up so many more people than comparable countries in the rest of Europe? It seems pretty barmy. I do not feel any less safe in Paris or Berlin than I do in London, and yet both those countries do not lock people up in the way we do. It is a fundamental and simple question. I hope very much that we will pass this, of course, but I hope it will be in the context of the Government being the first of any political party—the previous Labour Government refused to look at this as well—to look at this fundamental question and ask themselves, “Why?”

The answer must be that there are better ways of doing what we are trying to do. If it means ignoring pressure from the Daily Mail, then I am afraid that is what we have to do. Given the brave statement the Chancellor of the exchequer made today about cuts, it might be a very good opportunity for this Government to take a new look at why we lock people up.

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