Amendment to the Motion

Part of Procedure and Privileges Committee - Motion to Agree – in the House of Lords at 4:00 pm on 28 February 2024.

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Photo of Lord Gardiner of Kimble Lord Gardiner of Kimble The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, The Senior Deputy Speaker, Chair, Standing Orders (Private Bills) Committee (Lords), Chair, Standing Orders (Private Bills) Committee (Lords), Chair, Committee of Selection (Lords), Chair, Committee of Selection (Lords), Chair, Liaison Committee (Lords), Chair, Liaison Committee (Lords), Chair, Hybrid Instruments Committee (Lords), Chair, Hybrid Instruments Committee (Lords), Chair, Procedure and Privileges Committee, Chair, Procedure and Privileges Committee 4:00, 28 February 2024

This is precisely why we have made the arrangement in the Standing Order for overseas jurisdictions, particularly because there may well be some countries that deem matters criminal that we do not. It is precisely why, in the statute and in the Code of Conduct, there is this consideration about overseas jurisdictions—and, indeed, why we have factored that into this.

Clearly, if a serious violent or sexual offence was committed by a Member anywhere around the world, it would be appropriate for this Standing Order to be in effect. What we, this report and indeed this proposed Standing Order are saying is that there are very strong safety valves, precisely to outline some of the concerns of the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, and the noble Earl. It is precisely to ensure that there is a safeguard with the sort of malicious charge or allegation in a foreign jurisdiction that was bogus or not correct. That is precisely why I spent some time explaining what would happen, in so far as the Leave of Absence Sub-Committee acting extremely quickly. Obviously, if the House was sitting, it could be with immediate effect, on the basis of, in the balance of these things, protecting a Member who was subject to what I think the noble Lord was alluding to. But that is precisely why there is this element we have to factor in about overseas jurisdictions.