Lord Garnier:

Moved by Lord Garnier

110: Clause 188, page 177, line 23, leave out “which is a large organisation”Member’s explanatory statementThis amendment, together with the amendment to leave out Clause 190, would remove the exemption for organisations that are not “large organisations” from the failure to prevent regime so that there are no exemptions, although the statutory defence will apply to all organisations.

My Lords, clearly, I have not persuaded the Government, but I hope that I have not treated their arguments with disrespect. We have had not a row but an honest disagreement. As with all sorts of disagreements, I invite the House to arbitrate and will press this amendment to a Division.

I advise the House that, if Amendment 110 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 111 because of pre-emption.

Ayes 179, Noes 176.

Amendment 110 agreed.

My Lords, I cannot call Amendment 111 because of pre-emption.