Prisons - Question

Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 11:06 am on 8 February 2018.

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Photo of Lord Woolf Lord Woolf Crossbench 11:06, 8 February 2018

My Lords, the Minister accepts that there are great problems within the Prison Service. They seem to correlate with the result we now have of constant changes in the Lord Chancellor or Minister of Justice—I say that seeing the noble and learned Lord, Lord Irvine, in his place—and the fact that Ministers have to learn about prisons, which is not an easy task. So we get a situation where good reforms are overlooked and mistaken reforms are implemented. Does he think that there is a solution to this?