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Investigatory Powers Bill - Committee (3rd Day)

Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 7:00 pm on 19th July 2016.

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Photo of Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb Green 7:00 pm, 19th July 2016

I thank the noble Lords who have made kind comments, even if they disagreed with me. We are not going to agree on the double or treble lock because, quite honestly, if you have two people from the same background or discipline agreeing with and corroborating each other—whether police chiefs or politicians—I think that there is the possibility of bias and that people outside this Chamber will see that as well.

I have heard several times in our debates the idea that we have to give the security or intelligence services the tools that they need to do the job. Personally, I heard that quite a lot with reference to the Met Police when I was on the Met Police Authority. In fact, while the Met and the intelligence services can be somewhat like a greedy child at Christmas, wanting more and more toys, it was the current Prime Minister who said “Enough” to the police. When the previous Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, wanted water cannon to be used on the streets of London, Theresa May MP said that, no, she would not authorise it. So sometimes you have to say no because it is not the right thing—the right powers or toys to give to a department.

This is a monstrous Bill which, in essence, means the end of privacy for us all. It is very important that we get these things right, so I welcome all the debate that we are having. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment 169AA withdrawn.

Clause 105 agreed.

Clause 106 agreed.

Clause 107: Requirements which must be met by warrants

Amendments 169B to 169T not moved.

Clause 107 agreed.

Clause 108 agreed.

Clause 109: Renewal of warrants