Railways: Pacer Trains — Question

Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 3:07 pm on 9th December 2014.

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Photo of Lord Bradshaw Lord Bradshaw Liberal Democrat 3:07 pm, 9th December 2014

My Lords, will the Minister take notice of what has been happening in Scotland? When the new franchise was introduced, 30 new train sets were ordered immediately on that day from Hitachi. If she looks at the terms and conditions, she will see that these trains have been leased with the support of the Scottish Government—which is not what usually happens here—and they have done an extremely good deal, far better than has been achieved by Whitehall. Is it not the case that local control, be it in Scotland or London, produces far better results than are now produced in Whitehall?