Financial Services (Banking Reform) Bill — Report (2nd Day)

Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 6:15 pm on 27 November 2013.

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Photo of Baroness Cohen of Pimlico Baroness Cohen of Pimlico Labour 6:15, 27 November 2013

I support the amendment. Most of what we are legislating to do is prevent banks doing terrible things to customers. Proprietary trading allows banks to do terrible things to themselves. They are no good at controlling it. The real horrors and the things that, more importantly, threaten the financial system are banks getting proprietary trading horribly wrong. There are examples of distinguished banks coming completely unglued in this. Deutsche Bank, UBS and Morgan Stanley all spring to mind. They seem to have a completely uncontrollable Wild West operation—and if the owners of the operation cannot control it, is it not a serious risk to the financial system and something that, as the noble Lord, Lord Lawson, suggested, should not be taking place inside a bank?