Universal Credit: National Rollout — Question

Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 3:11 pm on 28th October 2013.

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Photo of Lord Foulkes of Cumnock Lord Foulkes of Cumnock Labour 3:11 pm, 28th October 2013

My Lords, this is really depressing. Why do the Government not pay attention to Sir John Major? Last week in the Press Gallery he advised the Government not to pay attention to the bean counters and cheerleaders, but to the people working with the disabled, the elderly and others who are suffering. John Major also said that this was going to fail, that all these reforms were going to fail, unless Iain Duncan Smith was a genius, and he saw no proof of that. Does the Minister have any proof? Unless he does, is it not about time that for the sake of our disabled people the Government started to think again?