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Part of Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill – in the House of Lords at 9:45 pm on 12th March 2012.

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Photo of Lord Beecham Lord Beecham Shadow Spokesperson (Communities and Local Government), Shadow Spokesperson (Health) 9:45 pm, 12th March 2012

The noble Lord will expect me to express my disappointment at that conclusion, in my understanding of the change of role from soft cop to hard cop. Of course, in many cases it is certainly true that advice is not necessary, but I have indicated at least three areas in which they might well have been necessary. I have experience of a couple of those in the rare occasions on which I have appeared before a tribunal, and I am sorry that Ministers have not felt able to make the very modest concession that would have ensured that in those rather more difficult cases-and they are the exception-legal advice would be available. It is not simply a question of filling in a form. However, clearly the Government are not disposed to take further action and, in the circumstances, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment 90 withdrawn.

Amendment 91

Moved by Lord McNally

91: Schedule 1, page 148, leave out lines 38 and 39 and insert ", except as follows-

(a) those services include the types of advocacy listed in this Part of this Schedule, except to the extent that Part 1 of this Schedule provides otherwise;

(b) those services include other types of advocacy to the extent that Part 1 of this Schedule so provides."