Report (6th Day)

Part of Health and Social Care Bill – in the House of Lords at 6:00 pm on 8th March 2012.

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Photo of Lord Ramsbotham Lord Ramsbotham Crossbench 6:00 pm, 8th March 2012

I thank the noble Earl for his habitually courteous and balanced reply and I am reassured on some of the points that I raised. I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Whitaker, and my noble friend Lady Finlay in particular for supporting the amendments and to the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, for mentioning them. Like the noble Baroness, Lady Whitaker, I have this nagging fear that education, education, education is something that will need to engage the health and well-being boards. The link between education and health, particularly in the assessment, which was the subject of the amendments, is absolutely crucial. During the passage of the then Education Bill, noble Lords described what they wanted but of course they could not have it because they were health matters funded by health. Therefore, it is terribly important that joint working happens.

I was very glad that the noble Earl mentioned "effective joint working", because I am sure that that is what we all seek. That was what was behind each and every one of the amendments. On the basis of that and knowing the noble Earl and that if he says something it is usually likely to happen, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment 238A withdrawn.

Clause 192 : Joint health and wellbeing strategies

Amendment 238AZA not moved.

Clause 193 : Establishment of Health and Wellbeing Boards

Amendments 238AA to 238BA not moved.

Clause 194 : Duty to encourage integrated working

Amendments 238C to 238G not moved.

Amendment 238H

Moved by Lord Beecham

238H: After Clause 194, insert the following new Clause-

"Functions of Health and Wellbeing Boards as to clinical commissioning groups' commissioning plans

All commissioning plans prepared by a clinical commissioning group as set out in section 14Z9 of the National Health Service Act 2006 must be agreed by the relevant Health and Wellbeing Board."