Report (2nd Day)

Part of Health and Social Care Bill – in the House of Lords at 6:30 pm on 13 February 2012.

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Photo of The Earl of Erroll The Earl of Erroll Crossbench 6:30, 13 February 2012

My Lords, the description by the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, of the NHS Commissioning Board and its satellites shows that you do not get economies of scale, but complexities of scale. This amendment contains a wonderful concept that bureaucrats should curb their deepest urges and I think that should be in all public sector body reorganisation Bills, but how would you enforce it? What sanctions do we have against a person who does not comply and does not curb their bureaucracy? The challenge is the same as with the previous amendment: how do we motivate people to behave in a correct and ethical way, so that patients' and the taxpayers' interests are looked after? I do not think that it can be done by regulation, which is very sad.