Obviously it would have been preferable if the Minister had said unequivocally that this matter will not be left to local discretion, but it is clear that I am not going to get that reassurance. However, the noble Lord has said quite a lot on record that he is committed to trying to resolve the needs of this particular group. Perhaps I may borrow a phrase from the noble Lord, Lord Newton, in a previous debate: I will hold the Minister's feet to the fire on this issue. On that basis, I agree to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment 60B withdrawn.
Amendment 61 not moved.
Amendment 61ZA had been retabled as Amendment 58D.
Amendments 61ZB to 61A not moved.
Clause 98 : Payments to joint claimants
Moved by Baroness Meacher
61B: Clause 98, page 66, line 18, at end insert-
"(b) to determine that payment should be made to whichever of those persons is the responsible carer (as defined in clause 19(6) of the Welfare Reform Act 2011) in the case of any benefit awarded in respect of responsibility for children or young persons or any childcare element, or"