Report (3rd Day)

Part of Welfare Reform Bill – in the House of Lords at 6:15 pm on 11 January 2012.

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Photo of Baroness Lister of Burtersett Baroness Lister of Burtersett Labour 6:15, 11 January 2012

My Lords, I want to make a very brief point in support of the amendments. The Government say that time-limiting ESA is not based on an estimate of a typical recovery time-it is not evidence-based-but on the principle that these are people who have other means of financial support, which of course is exactly the same principle that the Minister raised earlier to justify removing the ESA youth condition.

This other support is of course income-related ESA, and the Government point out that 60 per cent of people affected will be able to claim it. That means that 40 per cent of those affected-roughly one-third of men and nearly half of women-will not be able to. We are talking here about an erosion of their financial autonomy. Many noble Lords have received many letters from people saying that they are shocked and anxious at the implications of this.

An article in today's Guardian summed up very well what this erosion of financial autonomy means. This quotation is from a man who is going to be affected by this:

"The satisfaction of being able to contribute to the family budget with a benefit that has been earned and paid for will be removed. The last shred of dignity will be stripped from people who have already lost a great deal in life and who may already feel a burden on those who care for them".

Disabled people should never feel that they are a burden on those who care for them, and it is terrible that they are being made to feel that way by this clause.