Localism Bill — Committee (2nd Day)

Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 3:45 pm on 23 June 2011.

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Photo of Lord Tope Lord Tope Liberal Democrat 3:45, 23 June 2011

My Lords, I think I am grateful for that reply, which I think was an encouraging one. I spent 13 years as leader of a council under a committee system. I stood down on the day that we adopted the executive/scrutiny split-not for that reason, but it was a convenient time to do so-and spent the subsequent 12 years as a member of the executive, so I have experience of both.

I am sorry that I led us into a debate on what the best system is. It was probably inevitable that we would have a debate on what the best system is and what our personal experiences are, but the noble Lord, Lord True, was absolutely right to remind us that that is not our business to debate today. Having rightly left local authorities to determine for themselves what system they want, the only decision for us on these amendments today is the date on which that can be implemented. That is the sole purpose of my amendments, whether they are perfectly drafted-as I am sure they must be-or whether there is something more or different that needs to be done.

I hope very much that the Minister can be as clear as possible that when we come back on Report we will have amendments, moved in whoever's name, that will make absolutely clear that there is no need and that it makes no sense for local authorities which have whole-council elections to wait three or four years before implementing the changes that we say they should have the right to do. In hopeful anticipation, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment 70 withdrawn.

Amendments 71 and 72 not moved.

Amendment 73

Moved by Lord Tope

73: Schedule 2, page 225, line 48, leave out "5" and insert "10"