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House of Lords Reform Bill — Statement

Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 4:13 pm on 17th May 2011.

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Photo of Lord Forsyth of Drumlean Lord Forsyth of Drumlean Conservative 4:13 pm, 17th May 2011

My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend on how he has dealt with this matter today. May I press him on the answer he gave to the noble Baroness, Lady Symons? Throughout the Statement, he has been at pains to say that of course elected Members would change the relationship with the House of Commons. I have got only as far as page 7 of the White Paper, which says:

"We propose no change to the constitutional powers and privileges of the House once it is reformed, nor to the fundamental relationship with the House of Commons".

Who should we believe? Should we believe what it says in the White Paper or what my noble friend has been telling us this afternoon?