Committee (11th Day)

Part of Marine and Coastal Access Bill [HL] – in the House of Lords at 3:15 pm on 21 April 2009.

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Photo of Baroness Carnegy of Lour Baroness Carnegy of Lour Conservative 3:15, 21 April 2009

I support these amendments. My experience is that in these situations personal relations matter more than anything else. It is crucial to know the right people to talk to, how to get people to talk to one another, which organisations take what attitude and how they get on with local landowners and managers, and all that kind of thing. As the noble Lord who has just spoken knows as a councillor, local government people know how to do that as well as anyone. I cannot imagine that Natural England, being parachuted in as representatives of the Government of the day, is likely to get the same kind of response. It would be much more difficult but very much in its interests if it did this through local government and if that were allowed in the Bill. It should be in the Bill. It makes sense of local government and it makes sense for this exercise.