– in the House of Lords at 2:52 pm on 4 December 2007.
Lord Greaves
Spokesperson in the Lords (Planning), Department for Communities and Local Government, Spokesperson in the Lords, Environment, Food & Rural Affairs
2:52,
4 December 2007
asked Her Majesty's Government:
How many councils in England are subject to a moratorium or severe restrictions on granting planning permission for new housing.
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin
Government Whip
My Lords, no councils are subject to centrally imposed moratoria—by that, I mean centrally imposed blanket bans—or severe restrictions. Her Majesty's Government are not aware of any areas where there is a locally set moratorium. Some councils have introduced local policies that seek to restrict development within their areas in particular circumstances.
Lord Greaves
Spokesperson in the Lords (Planning), Department for Communities and Local Government, Spokesperson in the Lords, Environment, Food & Rural Affairs
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply, which is the same reply we have had to several of these Questions over the last year or two. Such replies meet with astonishment from local authority officers, councillors and, indeed, developers and local people in these local authorities and district councils, of which there is a string across the north of England—for example, Chesterfield. I spoke this afternoon to my Honourable Friend Paul Holmes, the MP for Chesterfield. There are moratoriums and local restrictions on giving any more planning permission in these areas—not on greenfield sites but on brownfield sites which can contribute to regeneration. Will the Government find out the facts about these places and hold discussions? If they do not want these moratoriums and want these councils to contribute to the 3 million houses that the Government want, will they let them do so? I should declare an interest as a member of such a council.
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin
Government Whip
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for raising this Question and giving me the opportunity to put on record something which I think will be helpful and may ameliorate some of the local authority astonishment that he described. I believe that there has been a misunderstanding on the part of some local authorities regarding what we are saying about the targets that are set in regional spatial strategies.
The Government have made it clear that we do not expect RSS targets to be ceilings. Taking this alongside planning policy statement 3 on housing, which was published last year, local authorities such as Pendle are now free to adopt a much more flexible approach to housing provision. For example, regional housing strategies are being reviewed, and we hope to publish the one for the north-west next year. If local authorities are not happy with their allocation of 190, for example, in Pendle, they can build more. They can make those decisions taking into account the need for sustainability and with regard to the need for pathfinder regeneration in the region as a whole.
Lord Marsh
Crossbench
My Lords, is the Minister aware that a much greater threat to many parts of the countryside is what are known as Travellers? Do the Government have the same degree of authority in getting some sort of Ordnung on the way in which those people behave? The local people dare not.
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin
Government Whip
My Lords, I am aware that some people have concerns about the experience of living close to Traveller communities. That is a long-standing concern, and the Government will be looking at that through the Housing and Regeneration Bill, which has already been debated in the other place. We will have a chance later in the Session to have a serious debate about these issues.
Baroness Seccombe
Deputy Chief Whip, Whips
My Lords, is not the Government's top-down approach the problem, not the solution? Of course we want rules to protect our green belt, and I wish I were confident that the Government did too. Should not local councils and local people decide where new housing goes? Why is unwanted development still being imposed by government inspectors in gardens in our lovely suburbs while brown land owned by the Government lies derelict?
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin
Government Whip
My Lords, I do not accept that interpretation of the planning system in this country. We have worked very hard to develop new approaches to planning that are plan-led. They are based on a bottom-up approach as well as national policy frameworks. We need local planning frameworks to be based on evidence from local communities to set aside, in a planned way, five years of available land. Yes, 60 per cent of that land for development needs to come from brownfield sites, but local authorities can ensure that as a local policy they exclude gardens from the brownfield allocation. I do not accept that we are looking at a top-down planning approach. The Government have ambitious targets to tackle the lack of affordable housing in this country and to ensure that we see 3 million new homes by 2020.
Lord Campbell of Alloway
Conservative
My Lords, with the greatest respect, thanking the noble Baroness for her Answer, is she aware that answering—which is not her fault—these excessively long questions totally destroys the essence of what is supposed to be Question Time?
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin
Government Whip
My Lords, I appreciate that it is to the advantage of the House to have as many questions answered as possible, but where there are serious misunderstandings about government policy, as we have seen with regard to regional spatial strategies, speaking on behalf of the Government I should have a chance to put important points on the record.
Lord Greaves
Spokesperson in the Lords (Planning), Department for Communities and Local Government, Spokesperson in the Lords, Environment, Food & Rural Affairs
My Lords, I think that the Government have overturned policy in one fell swoop in this announcement; perhaps not. Will the Minister make sure that her Government Office officials in the English regions and her planning inspectors are aware of what she has just announced? They are overturning local authority planning decisions on precisely the grounds that I have been talking about.
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin
Government Whip
My Lords, I assure the noble Lord that all appropriate offices and officers are properly informed of the Government's approach to RSS targets. He is highlighting the fact that government policy is moving on in a very important way. We need to make the planning system free up land so that we can see new houses for all those who are suffering because of a lack of affordability and a lack of access to decent homes in a place where they want to live.
When speaking in the House of Commons, an MP will refer to an MP of the same party as "My Honourable Friend".
Ministers make up the Government and almost all are members of the House of Lords or the House of Commons. There are three main types of Minister. Departmental Ministers are in charge of Government Departments. The Government is divided into different Departments which have responsibilities for different areas. For example the Treasury is in charge of Government spending. Departmental Ministers in the Cabinet are generally called 'Secretary of State' but some have special titles such as Chancellor of the Exchequer. Ministers of State and Junior Ministers assist the ministers in charge of the department. They normally have responsibility for a particular area within the department and are sometimes given a title that reflects this - for example Minister of Transport.
The House of Lords. When used in the House of Lords, this phrase refers to the House of Commons.
Question Time is an opportunity for MPs and Members of the House of Lords to ask Government Ministers questions. These questions are asked in the Chamber itself and are known as Oral Questions. Members may also put down Written Questions. In the House of Commons, Question Time takes place for an hour on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays after Prayers. The different Government Departments answer questions according to a rota and the questions asked must relate to the responsibilities of the Government Department concerned. In the House of Lords up to four questions may be asked of the Government at the beginning of each day's business. They are known as 'starred questions' because they are marked with a star on the Order Paper. Questions may also be asked at the end of each day's business and these may include a short debate. They are known as 'unstarred questions' and are less frequent. Questions in both Houses must be written down in advance and put on the agenda and both Houses have methods for selecting the questions that will be asked. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P1 at the UK Parliament site.