Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 4:26 pm on 28 November 2006.
We know, my Lords, because it is a national scheme. The previous scheme involved local buses in local areas providing concessionary schemes. This is a national scheme, which means that people can move out of areas using local buses. It is actually quite complicated. The best judgment was that it was important to get everyone from across the country around the table to see how this would work best in practice. It is not that we are trying to delay the scheme: we have a very strict timetable for it.