Countryside and Rights of Way Bill

Part of the debate – in the House of Lords at 5:00 pm on 1st November 2000.

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Photo of Baroness Carnegy of Lour Baroness Carnegy of Lour Conservative 5:00 pm, 1st November 2000

My Lords, the amendment deals with a small but important point. I base what I say on my own experience.

On a hill farm one often has a dwelling-house and then farm buildings 50 to 100 yards up the hill. If the farm buildings contain cattle there will probably be straw storage as part of the building. There will also be straw within the building. The great fear for those in the dwelling-house is that the people walking about at night with torches might set fire to that building. A long time ago that happened on three successive occasions on land for which I was responsible. If it was known that people had to stay outside a boundary, and one saw torches within less than 100 yards of one's house, one would know whether those people were walking lawfully across the land or whether they were trying to get into the building. It would be a great advantage if Amendment No. 10 were accepted. It is a small point. But it would simplify the whole arrangement in the minds of the public, as the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, said.