Northern Ireland Troubles Bill

Northern Ireland – in the House of Commons at on 7 January 2026.

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Photo of Luke Akehurst Luke Akehurst Labour, North Durham

What steps he has taken to engage with relevant stakeholders on the Northern Ireland Troubles Bill.

Photo of Paul Foster Paul Foster Labour, South Ribble

What steps he has taken to engage with relevant stakeholders on the Northern Ireland Troubles Bill.

Photo of Hilary Benn Hilary Benn The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

I regularly meet a variety of stakeholders to talk about the Northern Ireland Troubles Bill, including veterans groups, political parties in Northern Ireland, and victims and families who are still living with the effects of those decades of terrible violence.

Photo of Luke Akehurst Luke Akehurst Labour, North Durham

No matter what unit they served in, veterans in North Durham are particularly concerned about the impact of the new legislation on those who served in the special forces. Can the Secretary of State reassure me that he has met the Special Air Service Regimental Association and is responding to its specific concerns?

Photo of Hilary Benn Hilary Benn The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

I am very happy to give my hon. Friend that assurance. I did indeed meet the Special Air Service Regimental Association recently, as part of the discussions that I and my colleagues in the Ministry of Defence are having with veterans. We are listening to the concerns being expressed and, as I have said to the House on a number of occasions, we want to ensure that the legislation responds to them.

Photo of Paul Foster Paul Foster Labour, South Ribble

Under the previous Government’s unlawful Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Act 2023, the Police Service of Northern Ireland was required to shut down more than 1,000 investigations, including 225 investigations into the deaths of soldiers and veterans. Will the Secretary of State please assure the families of murdered British armed forces personnel that, should they wish to approach the reformed commission, it will consider their case and may be able to provide them with the answers that many of them have long sought?

Photo of Hilary Benn Hilary Benn The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

My hon. Friend is quite right to draw attention to one of the implications of the 2023 legacy Act in shutting down all those investigations. He is right that families are perfectly free to refer cases to the commission. I know that the commission is keen to investigate as many cases as come its way, in order to provide answers for those families, who have waited so long.

Photo of Gregory Campbell Gregory Campbell DUP, East Londonderry

Engaging with and listening to stakeholders is good, but there needs to be a positive outcome to both. There also needs to be specific and clear references in the Bill to paramilitaries not being permitted to serve on the victims and survivors advisory group. Will that be the case?

Photo of Hilary Benn Hilary Benn The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

I have already given the House that assurance from this Dispatch Box. When we consider the Bill in Committee, we will have the opportunity to debate the Bill in its current form and the many amendments that I can see have already been tabled.

Photo of David Davis David Davis Conservative, Goole and Pocklington

The Secretary of State has stated many times that the previous Government’s legislation in this area had no support from political parties in Northern Ireland. Can he tell the House which political parties support his legislation?

Photo of Hilary Benn Hilary Benn The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

All the political parties in Northern Ireland that expressed their profound Opposition to immunity have welcomed the fact that immunity will go under the legislation that we have brought before the House—that includes Gavin Robinson, the DUP leader, who supports its removal. That is a sign that the Government have been listening to views in Northern Ireland. Unfortunately, the Legacy Act failed to do that.

Photo of Alex Burghart Alex Burghart Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster

Happy new year, Mr Speaker.

Over Christmas, seven former senior SAS officers wrote in The Telegraph:

“In this Troubles Bill, the Government is complicit in this war on our Armed Forces.”

A few days later, the Northern Ireland Veterans Commissioner, appointed by this Government, said that the Bill treats veterans “worse than terrorists” and is

“eating at the very fabric of the Armed Forces”.

Can the Secretary of State tell the House which former senior officers support the Bill?

Photo of Hilary Benn Hilary Benn The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

I do not agree with either of the characterisations that the hon. Gentleman just referred to. I am confident that the protections, which we have designed specifically for veterans, will change their experience in relation to the legacy process. However, as I have said to the House, we continue to talk to veterans and veterans organisations. I want to produce a Bill that can offer the reassurance they are looking for: that we have a fair and proportionate system that recognises their service to the country.

Photo of Alex Burghart Alex Burghart Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster

I note that the Secretary of State was unable to give a single example. There is, I am afraid, an ostrich-like complacency in the Government’s approach to this legislation. Senior representatives of our armed forces are telling this House that the legislation is impacting on morale and effectiveness. In November, nine former four-star generals argued that this “morally incoherent” Bill poses a

“direct threat to national security”.

Those generals tell us that highly trained members of special forces are already leaving the service, and by definition these men are very, very difficult to replace. No wonder The Times has said that

“a fundamental lack of political and military understanding lies at the heart of this Bill.”

Why do the Government think that they know better than our armed forces?

Photo of Hilary Benn Hilary Benn The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

The Government had to do something about the previous Government’s failed legacy Act, which had no support in Northern Ireland. If one is seeking to help the people of Northern Ireland to deal with the continuing consequences of the troubles, the legislation has to have that support, and the previous Government failed to do that. On the impact on recruitment, as the hon. Gentleman will have heard when the Minister for the Armed Forces answered the urgent question on Monday, inflows continue to improve. Indeed, inflow is up by 13% this year compared with September 2024.

Photo of Paul Kohler Paul Kohler Liberal Democrat Spokesperson (Northern Ireland)

Happy new year, Mr Speaker.

The Secretary of State was sitting alongside the Minister for the Armed Forces on Monday, when I asked him whether he was listening to the concerns of veterans regarding the Northern Ireland Troubles Bill. The Minister convinced me that he is listening, and we just heard the Secretary of State do likewise, but is anyone acting on those concerns? Before Christmas, at the Dispatch Box, the Secretary of State promised to write to me detailing which veterans groups he had met, but I have heard nothing since. I also wrote to the Under-Secretary of State for Northern Ireland to request a meeting to discuss veterans’ ongoing concerns, but I have heard nothing since. Will the Secretary of State please detail all the veterans groups he has met, and meet me to discuss their continuing concerns?

Photo of Hilary Benn Hilary Benn The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland

I apologise to the hon. Gentleman that he has not received the letter to which he referred, and I assure him that I will remedy that very promptly. Defence Ministers and I have met a large number of organisations, and I would just point out that none of the six protections that the Government have put forward were contained in the previous Government’s legacy Act—not a single one. We intend to continue to listen, and to respond to the concerns that have been raised.

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