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Part of the debate – in the House of Commons at 3:15 pm on 8th May 2019.

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Photo of James Cartlidge James Cartlidge Conservative, South Suffolk 3:15 pm, 8th May 2019

I did, but this is a debating Chamber—[Interruption.] Marsha De Cordova does not agree. I hope that she makes some original points when she comes to speak. I simply say that there will probably be a general election at some point in the next few years, and possibly before 2022. In this Chamber, we should debate policy; that is what we are put here to do.

I happen to think that one of the biggest questions we face concerns the fact that people who are going into work today will not receive an occupational pension, because such pensions have disappeared. Many retired people—good luck to them; my parents are in this category —receive good occupational pensions. Some of those people, although not most, would be regarded by many as relatively wealthy. In my view, therefore, we must look at the principle of taxing benefits that are paid out as so-called freebies—of course, the money has to come from somewhere—according to the recipients’ means.