Privatised Probation System

Part of the debate – in the House of Commons at 5:06 pm on 4th March 2019.

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Photo of Karl Turner Karl Turner Shadow Minister (Transport) 5:06 pm, 4th March 2019

This situation is indeed shocking. [Laughter.] I do wonder: either very senior civil servants follow Chris Grayling around giving him really bad advice, or he is in fact just incredibly incompetent. Which is it?