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Senior Civil Servants (Social Background)

Oral Answers to Questions — Cabinet Office – in the House of Commons at 11:30 am on 1st July 2015.

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Photo of Rehman Chishti Rehman Chishti Conservative, Gillingham and Rainham 11:30 am, 1st July 2015

What steps he is taking to ensure that people from all social backgrounds are able to become senior civil servants.

Photo of Matthew Hancock Matthew Hancock The Paymaster General and Minister for the Cabinet Office

Background should be no barrier to success and we are committed to ensuring that the most senior ranks of the civil service can be reached by all.

Photo of Rehman Chishti Rehman Chishti Conservative, Gillingham and Rainham

Although 10% of the civil service is from a black and minority ethnic community, only 4% are in senior positions. What steps are the Government taking to ensure that each and every one of them can achieve their true potential without their background being a hindrance?

Photo of Matthew Hancock Matthew Hancock The Paymaster General and Minister for the Cabinet Office

My hon. Friend raises an important point. This is true not just about ethnicity in the senior civil service but about gender and people with disabilities. We need to ensure that the senior civil service represents the country that it serves. Steps are under way to ensure that that happens and I look forward to working with my hon. Friend to reach that conclusion.

Photo of Jon Ashworth Jon Ashworth Shadow Minister (Cabinet Office)

We welcome the Minister to his place and the Opposition support genuine efforts to increase the diversity of the civil service. He will be aware that 58% of permanent secretaries were privately educated, as were 53% of senior diplomats and 45% of public body chairs. Would he therefore support targets to increase the numbers from state education at the top of our civil service?

Photo of Matthew Hancock Matthew Hancock The Paymaster General and Minister for the Cabinet Office

I certainly strongly agree that it is important that as well as considering gender, ethnicity and other characteristics we ensure that people from all backgrounds—whichever school they went to and whichever part of the country they come from—can get to senior levels in the civil service. We have a programme under way to ensure that that happens.

Photo of Bernard Jenkin Bernard Jenkin Chair, Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee

I congratulate my hon. Friend on his appointment as Minister for the civil service and assure him that the now Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee will look forward to working with him on civil service reform, as we did with his predecessor, who did so much during his term of office. May I also give my fullest support to his objective of achieving diversity? That is a vital part of having an agile civil service and requires the challenging of attitudes and habits of behaviour as much as setting targets.

Photo of Matthew Hancock Matthew Hancock The Paymaster General and Minister for the Cabinet Office

I pay tribute to my hon. Friend for his re-election—unopposed—to the Chair of the Select Committee. I very much look forward to working with him, although I say that with some trepidation, knowing his depth of understanding of these issues. I entirely agree that this is about culture and agility in the civil service as much as it is about tick-box targets.

Photo of Andrew Percy Andrew Percy Conservative, Brigg and Goole

One of the biggest barriers to accessing some senior civil service jobs is where they are located. What more can be done to ensure that jobs are located outside the south of England? Why not start by moving the Department for Transport to the north, which might bring some of the money it spends down here up there, as well?

Photo of Matthew Hancock Matthew Hancock The Paymaster General and Minister for the Cabinet Office

As my hon. Friend knows, we are investing a huge amount in transport systems across the nation, not least in the north of England and in his area. It is crucial that we proceed in an efficient and cost-effective way. There are civil servants who work across the land, and we should not forget that, and we must ensure that they represent the whole country, too.