Part of Oral Answers to Questions — Defence – in the House of Commons at 2:30 pm on 12th January 2015.
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I do not agree with my hon. Friend. Medals are for specific campaigns and acts of gallantry, and rightly so. In this instance, therefore, we will have to disagree.
Posted on 13 Jan 2015 3:39 pm (Report this annotation)
Wrong!! I'm afraid medals are issued for many other scenario's, and there are numerous examples. Clearly the Minister does not know her brief.
If she struggles on this issue, how many other areas will she be found wanting?
Posted on 13 Jan 2015 11:06 pm (Report this annotation)
Three questions then, why has three commemorative medals been issued ,one each for the three jubilees? Was these earned?
If campaign medals have to be earned why has the ACSM 2011 been refused to veterans who earned it by serving the stipulated time on operations. You placed a still serving criteria on it the only campaign medal to have the stigma attached to it.
Was those National Defence Medals issued to Commonwealth forces not earned?
John Proffitt, Chairman, British Airborne Forces Bureau (Commonwealth Veterans Association)
Posted on 14 Jan 2015 12:52 am (Report this annotation)
Veterans and Services across United Kingdom believe an award of a new National Defence Medal to them will do a lot of good. It will go some way to repair injustice or indignity of not being recognised or acknowledged in the past for their defence service to their country.
I invite the Minister to support veterans as part of her portfolio by signing the Early Day Motion 641- National Defence Medal and by attending Parliament on 27 February 2015 to support the second reading of the Bill for the National Defence Medal.
Posted on 14 Jan 2015 12:28 pm (Report this annotation)
Specific campaigns but not ALL campaigns and only a very few of the many acts of gallantry.
The Right Honourable lady appears to be uninformed of the truths behind Service Expectations, the truths behind Political manipulation of reality against the better interests of diplomacy and the true and many risks and rigours that exist between reality and peace. These ignored risks and rigours, stand offs and dangers have been faced on an almost daily basis by our Armed Forces personnel and because of this our peace has been protected from world reality.
Yes, a National Defence medal should exist and should be awarded to all our military personnel for keeping us safe.
Individually a low cost but hugely valuable mark of a Nation's gratitude to and value of those who sacrifice much to keep us, and much of our world, safe.
Posted on 14 Jan 2015 12:49 pm (Report this annotation)
What a load of tosh Anna Soubry talks and it sounds similar to her predecessor (Andrew Robathan).
On the Military Covenant - Another load of rubbish - I am a Royal Navy veteran serving 28 years who has fallen on bad times, Homeless, Jobless, Car less and financially struggling on £30 per week. The RBL , SSAFA , Veterans UK and other agencies either cannot or won't help me. No one will give me a chance of a job either because of the gap in my CV.
What will she as Veterans Minister do for me !!!
Posted on 14 Jan 2015 7:39 pm (Report this annotation)
I am sorry but the only reason the NDM has not been issued to British service personnel is costs. It was this criteria and no other that this medal was refused. If the sub committee had read the case for it in full which is obvious they did not there were no grounds for refusing it other than the cost.
Matelot Days gone by
Posted on 20 Jan 2015 12:07 pm (Report this annotation)
I agree with Raymond Ogle that the "Options Paper" that was put before the HDC was not only a disgrace as there was no discussion of the merits of the NDM case. It also relied on highly contentious figures. The numbers of veterans that have served in HM Armed Forces has been grossly exagerated as has the cost per medal. This can only have been done in a deliberate attempt to make the institution of the National Defence Medal appear to be beyond any economical reality.
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