Trade Union Facility Time

Oral Answers to Questions — Cabinet Office – in the House of Commons at 11:30 am on 25 June 2014.

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Photo of Alec Shelbrooke Alec Shelbrooke Conservative, Elmet and Rothwell 11:30, 25 June 2014

What recent progress he has made on reform of trades union facility time in Government Departments.

Photo of Francis Maude Francis Maude The Paymaster General and Minister for the Cabinet Office

Mr Speaker, with permission I will take questions 1 and 10 together.

At the time of the last General Election, there was no monitoring of taxpayer-funded trade union facility time in the civil service. We now have controls in place that saved £19 million last year, and we have already reduced the number of taxpayer-funded full-time union officials from 200 in May 2010 down to around a dozen this month.

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I allowed the right hon. Gentleman to continue his answer, but my office advises me that it has not been notified of the grouping to which he refers. It might have been the intention, but my office indicates that it has not been notified of it, which obviously it should have been.

Photo of Alec Shelbrooke Alec Shelbrooke Conservative, Elmet and Rothwell

In the past, Departments gave paid time off for union conferences. Can my right hon. Friend confirm that this Government will not be spending taxpayers’ money packing civil servants off to the seaside?

Photo of Francis Maude Francis Maude The Paymaster General and Minister for the Cabinet Office

Under the rules that operated under the last Government, it was absolutely the case that thousands of union officials, paid for by the taxpayer as civil servants, were given paid time off—sometimes, extraordinarily, with paid travel and expenses—to attend union conferences at the seaside. We have stopped this. They can take unpaid time off to attend conferences, and any decision to award paid time off is entirely at the discretion of the Minister in charge of that civil servant’s Department.

Photo of Tom Clarke Tom Clarke Labour, Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill

Will the right hon. Gentleman ensure that the guidelines will allow those people responsible to the Home Office for the efficient administration of passport services to be involved in the consultation to find a solution to the crisis, given that they predicted it in the first place?

Photo of Francis Maude Francis Maude The Paymaster General and Minister for the Cabinet Office

It remains and has always been the case that union officials are entitled to paid time off to pursue their union duties, as opposed to activities. If those discussions are in pursuit of their duties because they relate to particular employment issues, that will of course continue to be the case.

Photo of David Morris David Morris Conservative, Morecambe and Lunesdale

What has my right hon. Friend put in place to monitor and indeed limit the facilities provided to trade unions at taxpayers’ expense within the civil service?

Photo of Francis Maude Francis Maude The Paymaster General and Minister for the Cabinet Office

Again, there were no arrangements at all to monitor what facilities were being made available to union officials at taxpayers’ expense. We have now put in place arrangements to try to find out exactly what is going on, but I regret to say that the data are not yet complete. However, we will continue to pursue this.

Photo of Jon Ashworth Jon Ashworth Shadow Minister (Cabinet Office)

The Paymaster General will of course be aware that many private sector employers, such as Rolls-Royce, Jaguar Land Rover and Airbus, all take advantage of facility time, because they know it helps with workplace relations and with their obligations to consult. The private sector can recognise the benefits of facility time, so rather than knocking facility time in the public sector, why can he not recognise its benefits for that sector?

Photo of Francis Maude Francis Maude The Paymaster General and Minister for the Cabinet Office

I do recognise the benefits, which is why—even if we wanted to, which we do not—we are not proposing to get rid of it altogether. All we are saying is that it should be in accordance with the law and the obligations that the statute places on us as employers. I am the first to recognise that there are often advantages in being able to resolve disputes quickly and locally before they escalate, which is why some facility time will continue to be available.

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