Part of Science, Technology and Engineering (Careers Information in Schools) – in the House of Commons at 1:26 pm on 13th February 2013.

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Photo of Jeremy Browne Jeremy Browne The Minister of State, Home Department 1:26 pm, 13th February 2013

If the right hon. Lady is accusing me of being too party political, it is worth saying that crime started to fall when John Major was Prime Minister. What is notable is that Labour MPs, when they were in government, used to say that crime was falling because they were spending more money on the police. Now, however, because of their complete fiscal incontinence, we are having to spend marginally less money on the police. We have lower crime than when Labour was in office, and the lowest level of independently recorded crime in the survey since it began more than 30 years ago. Surely that is good news. Let us try to establish that point, and let us see whether Andrew Gwynne agrees.