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GP Commissioning

Oral Answers to Questions — Health – in the House of Commons at 2:30 pm on 25th January 2011.

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Photo of Mark Lancaster Mark Lancaster Conservative, Milton Keynes North 2:30 pm, 25th January 2011

What recent progress he has made in introducing GP commissioning consortia.

Photo of Stephen Mosley Stephen Mosley Conservative, City of Chester

What recent progress he has made in introducing GP commissioning consortia.

Photo of Nick de Bois Nick de Bois Conservative, Enfield North

What recent progress he has made in introducing GP commissioning consortia.

Photo of Matthew Offord Matthew Offord Conservative, Hendon

What recent progress he has made in introducing GP commissioning consortia.

Photo of Christopher Pincher Christopher Pincher Conservative, Tamworth

What recent progress he has made in introducing GP commissioning consortia.

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

Last week, I announced the second wave of GP-led pathfinder consortia. There are now 141 groups of GP practices piloting the future GP commissioning arrangements. Those groups are made up of more than 4,000 GP practices, with over half the population starting to benefit from services that better meet their needs and improve outcomes for patients. The Health and Social Care Bill, which had its First Reading last week, sets out the legislative framework that supports our reforms.

Photo of Mark Lancaster Mark Lancaster Conservative, Milton Keynes North

Consortia in Milton Keynes have been given £1 per patient as a transition fund. That money is most welcome. It will rise to £2 per head next year. The problem, however, is that the fund is proving hard to access because of the bureaucratic nature of the local primary care trust. Will the Secretary of State look into that and ensure that the money is accessible?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

I entirely understand my hon. Friend's point. The PCT's role is to support the development of consortia, not inhibit it. The operating framework that was published last month sets out the range of support that PCTs should be offering emerging consortia. Milton Keynes PCT has confirmed that it will actively support Premier MK, one of two consortia in the area, with its application to become a pathfinder, and that it is actively working with another consortium in the Milton Keynes area.

Photo of Stephen Mosley Stephen Mosley Conservative, City of Chester

Pathfinder consortia will play a crucial role in improving the NHS, so it is imperative that any problems are sorted out as quickly as possible. How does my right hon. Friend propose to help any pathfinder consortium that finds itself in the unfortunate position of failing to deliver the results expected of it?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

My hon. Friend makes an important point. He will recall that before the election, the Select Committee on Health severely criticised the way in which primary care trusts were going about commissioning. We are looking to consortia because they are clinically led and responsive to patients in designing far better clinical services, and they will have considerable support in doing so. Over the next two years, we will enable them to develop support arrangements, whether through existing primary care trust teams, local authorities, the NHS commissioning board, or a range of voluntary and independent sector organisations.

Photo of Nick de Bois Nick de Bois Conservative, Enfield North

Will the Secretary of State outline the role that charities and voluntary organisations will play under GP commissioning to ensure that the needs and views of patients are at the heart of services?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

To give my hon. Friend one example, last Friday I spoke to the Motor Neurone Disease Association, which has developed a commissioning support organisation with the Multiple Sclerosis Society and Parkinson's UK. The voluntary sector can therefore be involved directly in helping GP consortia to commission for those critical diseases more effectively. My hon. Friend might have seen what Sir Stephen Bubb, the chief executive of the Association of Chief Executives of Voluntary Organisations, said last week:

"These reforms could herald a new and dynamic relationship between local GPs and charities that both deliver good services and act as a powerful voice for patients."

Photo of Matthew Offord Matthew Offord Conservative, Hendon

My constituents in Hendon are eager to see the improvements in health services that I believe GP commissioning will bring about. Will my right hon. Friend give examples of where GPs have had the freedoms and responsibilities that we can expect in Hendon?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

My hon. Friend might like to speak to general practitioners in Redbridge in London who, as a pathfinder consortium, have been pioneering GP-led commissioning for 18 months. They have redesigned care for patients with diabetes and coronary artery disease, and are shifting care in ophthalmology and dermatology to primary care settings. They are demonstrating how this form of locally and clinically-led commissioning is more responsive to patients and more effective.

Photo of Christopher Pincher Christopher Pincher Conservative, Tamworth

As we shift from PCTs commissioning services to GP consortia doing so, can my right hon. Friend confirm that the important work done by pharmacies, such as providing anti-smoking clinics and the supervised consumption of drug substitutes, will not be left out in the cold?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

My hon. Friend enables me to say that I and my colleagues entirely understand and endorse the stronger role that pharmacies can play, including by assisting with the provision of services such as minor ailments services and medicines use reviews, which will be commissioned through arrangements led by the NHS commissioning board. In addition, the services that he describes, such as stop smoking services, will be commissioned as part of the public health efforts, which will be led by local authorities through their local health improvement plans.

Photo of Emma Reynolds Emma Reynolds Shadow Minister (Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs)

Will the Secretary of State comment on the apparent conflict between, on the one hand, a general practitioner being an advocate for their patient and taking purely clinical decisions and, on the other hand, GPs having to allocate resources in the new system? Will that conflict not lead to a breakdown of trust in the relationship between the GP and their patients?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

I am afraid the hon. Lady sees a conflict where, to GPs, there is none. It is their responsibility- [Interruption.] No, their first duty is always to their patients, whose best interests they must secure. When she has an opportunity to look at the Health and Social Care Bill, which we published last week, she will see that it makes very clear the duty to improve quality and continuously to improve standards. We all know that we have to achieve that with finite resources, but we will do that much better when we let clinical leaders influence directly how those resources are used rather than letting a management bureaucracy tell them how to do it.

Photo of Debbie Abrahams Debbie Abrahams Labour, Oldham East and Saddleworth

Can the Secretary of State explain why, at a time when front-line NHS staff in my constituency and elsewhere across the country are in fear of their jobs, it is proposed that the NHS commissioning board will be able to make bonus payments to a GP consortium if, to quote the Bill,

"it considers that the consortium has performed well", and that a GP consortium may

"distribute any payments received by it...among its members"?

Is that not the worst kind of excess? We do not want to see it in our banking system, and we certainly do not want to see it in our NHS.

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

I am glad to have the opportunity to welcome the hon. Lady to the Opposition Benches and wish her well in representing Oldham East and Saddleworth. I am sorry that she did not take the opportunity to welcome in particular the Government's commitment to the new women and children's unit at the Royal Oldham hospital.

For years, general practices have been remunerated partly through a quality and outcomes framework. The principle is that if they deliver better outcomes for patients, they should have a corresponding benefit from doing so. In the same way, if the commissioning consortia deliver improving outcomes for patients, that should be recognised in their overall reward.

Photo of John Healey John Healey Shadow Secretary of State for Health

The Secretary of State talks a lot about GPs using £80 billion of public money to commission services, but if they are to carry on being family doctors, the planning, negotiating, managing and monitoring of hundreds of commissioning contracts will be done not by GPs but in their name, either by the people who do it now in primary care trusts or by the big health companies that are already hard-selling the service to new GP consortia. Is he not deliberately disguising the true purpose of his changes, which is to open up all parts of the NHS to big private health care companies?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

On the contrary, the purposes of the Bill are very clear to see-for example, the duty to improve quality and raise standards throughout the health service. I hope that the shadow Secretary of State will acknowledge that putting clinical leadership at the heart of the system is essential. I entirely understand that leadership is not the same thing as management, as do general practitioners. The Prime Minister and I will meet the first wave of pathfinder consortia tomorrow, and we will support them in taking clinical leadership in designing services for patients and bringing to bear the best management support in doing so.

Photo of John Healey John Healey Shadow Secretary of State for Health

Why will the right hon. Gentleman not be straight with the public? I have with me the White Paper-57 pages and only three references to the market, all of them to the social market. He talks about GP commissioning, but not about the hard-line political ideology that underlines these changes. The Bill puts no limit on the use of NHS beds and staff to treat private patients, it puts no limits on big private health care companies undercutting and undermining local hospitals, and it puts at the heart of the new system an economic regulator charged not with improving services but with guaranteeing and enforcing competition. Is this NHS reorganisation not like an iceberg, with the substantial ideological bulk being kept out of the public's sight?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

The shadow Secretary of State cannot actually criticise what we put forward in the White Paper or the Bill and is resorting to inventing something else and attacking that. Let me tell him that the one thing we will not do with the private sector is rig the market so that private companies get contracts and guaranteed money whether or not they treat patients. We are not going to give them 11% more money than the NHS would get for doing the same work. We will give NHS organisations a proper chance to deliver services for patients.

Photo of Liz Kendall Liz Kendall Shadow Minister (Health)

Whatever the Secretary of State claims about his reorganisation, a King's Fund survey showed that more than three quarters of doctors do not believe that it will improve patient care, and even his Department's impact assessment on the Health and Social Care Bill says that the reorganisation risks distracting staff and making them less focused on patient care.

Will the Health Secretary now confirm that the number of patients waiting more than six weeks for their cancer test has already doubled under this Government, and that routine operations are being cancelled? Will he finally listen to the Royal College of Nursing and the British Medical Association, which have told him that his plans are

"extremely risky and potentially disastrous" for the NHS and patient care?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

I find it astonishing that the hon. Lady should attack the NHS because some elective operations have been cancelled. We have been through a flu outbreak and very severe weather, and that is what happens as a consequence. She should not try to make a political point out of it.

It is also astonishing that the hon. Lady gets up and says that she does not agree with our policy. On 3 December, she is quoted in GP news as saying that

"it is 'absolutely right' that GPs are 'better involved' in commissioning services."

She supported it. The truth is that before the election the Labour Government instituted practice-based commissioning, introduced foundation trusts, started payment by results and said that patient choice was right. The shadow Secretary of State said just last week that

"these plans"- our plans-

"are consistent, coherent and comprehensive", and indeed they are.

Photo of Tim Farron Tim Farron Party Chair, Liberal Democrats

Cumbria's current health commissioners-the PCT-chose to scrap the heart unit at Westmorland general hospital, despite medical, clinical and public opposition. Will the Secretary of State confirm that new GP fundholding arrangements allows the possibility of returning services that are clinically supportable, such as a heart unit at Westmorland general?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

I know, not least from visiting that hospital, how strongly people in my hon. Friend's area feel about their access to services locally. I am pleased to say that he will see in the Bill that one of the duties of the NHS commissioning board is to reduce inequalities in access to health services, and GPs can do precisely that.

Photo of Stephen Hepburn Stephen Hepburn Labour, Jarrow

The Secretary of State knows fine well that the British public knew nothing at the general election of his plans dramatically to dismantle and privatise the NHS. Will he give them a say now and have a referendum on the issue?

Photo of Andrew Lansley Andrew Lansley The Secretary of State for Health

Since we have no plan either to dismantle or to privatise the NHS, it is no surprise that people were not told of any such plan. Before the election and in the Conservative manifesto, people were told of our determination to cut bureaucracy and get money to front-line care. They were told of the determination of both parties in the coalition to get decision making close to the front line, to enhance accountability, including democratic accountability, and to give greater responsibility to clinicians to lead the development of services.